H.Lividum Breeding?

Querx

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Hey all,

I have a question regarding Haplopelma Lividum. I've been looking for a good tarantula to breed and when looking at Lividums my only concern is how to monitor the egg sac. Surely as they are a burrowing species, it's likely that the egg sac will be kept in their burrow with them so how do we monitor the progress of the egg sac when it's completely concealed?

Thanks in advance,
 

FrostyCakee

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Hey all,

I have a question regarding Haplopelma Lividum. I've been looking for a good tarantula to breed and when looking at Lividums my only concern is how to monitor the egg sac. Surely as they are a burrowing species, it's likely that the egg sac will be kept in their burrow with them so how do we monitor the progress of the egg sac when it's completely concealed?

Thanks in advance,
that is a very good question that i have not yet thought of, am very curious about this look forward to hearing some of the responses.
 

xhexdx

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You can always leave the sac with the H. lividum (lowercase 'L') and let her incubate it.

Otherwise, you try to determine when the sac was dropped (most should clear away some substrate from the wall or bottom of the enclosure when they burrow) and pull it at a specific date. Addionally, if you are able to see when the sac was dropped, you should (theoretically) be able to monitor the sac through the same 'windows' in the enclosure.

What led you to the conclusion that H. lividum (lowercase 'L') are a good species to breed?
 

Querx

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Yeah, i did wonder whether i could use the windows they make when burrorwing to see into the hide for egg sac monitoring. Good idea. Also, what would be the best way to recover the egg sac if i did decide to pull it. I mean, the burrow is a semi-complex design with lots of turns all under a few inches of substrate. How do you get at the egg sac when it's hidden down there?

In response to the question, I just need something a little more advanced to breed now than G.rosea or Brachypelmas.
 
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xhexdx

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Also, what would be the best way to recover the egg sac if i did decide to pull it. I mean, the burrow is a semi-complex design with lots of turns all under a few inches of substrate. How do you get at the egg sac when it's hidden down there?
Destroy the burrow if you aren't able to get it out any other way.
 

xhexdx

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H. lividum (only two "i's") go for between $10 and $15 I'd think, but you may want to search FS for 'lividum' (only two "i's") to get a better idea.
 

Moltar

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Guys, I'm not aware of H. lividum being especially easy to breed or, for that matter, easy to sell. (There are so many WC available, unfortunately). I absolutely don't mean to discourage you, but if you're looking for a really easy first time breeding project, P. muribus is your gal. They have small(ish) sacs, usually will cohabitate (and not eat each other) and are cheap to buy. The only problem with them is likely taking the sac from an angry mommy but I doubt it would be any easier with an H. lividum. And you won't have to dig.
 

Querx

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don't want to sound like a grammar nazi here but when you say P.muribus do you mean P.murinus because i thought they were meant to be really fast and bad tempered? By smallish sacs do you know roughly how many eggs?
 

Moltar

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Yes, I meant muriNus. And yes, they are fast and snarky and defensive, but so is H. lividum. I'm not trying to talk you out of breeding Cobalt's, just mentioning that OBT's are generally considered easy to breed.

I'd say an OBT sac is somewhere around 150 eggs, give or take.
 

Querx

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Sounds like murinus give a good amount of eggs then. How much is it usually to buy a breeding group of them?
 

Cuddly Cobalt

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I'm getting an H. lividium soon, I hope. What do the slings go for generally?
lol your getting my lividum XD dont worry she is yours since you are buying the three tarantula thing. I bought the lividum for 55$ so your going to be saving money ;)
 

xhexdx

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Sounds like murinus give a good amount of eggs then. How much is it usually to buy a breeding group of them?
Adult females in the States sell for around $40ish, but I couldn't tell you what they sell for in Europe. If you haven't already, join the European usergroup and check their FS section.
 

Moltar

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Sounds like murinus give a good amount of eggs then. How much is it usually to buy a breeding group of them?
Actually, that's on the small side when compared with Nhandu, Brachypelma, Lasiadora and quite a few others. Spiders from those genera tend to yield something more in the neighborhood of 1,000 than 100. I have no idea where Haplopelma come in with regard to that.

Please do post some pics or progress reports if you do go ahead with the breeding attempt. Other new hobbyists would probably appreciate the newbies perspective on breeding.
 

FrostyCakee

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lol your getting my lividum XD dont worry she is yours since you are buying the three tarantula thing. I bought the lividum for 55$ so your going to be saving money ;)
oh i was refering to the slings, trust me im not worrying about your price :D
ive done my research and its a good deal

also what does WC stand for?
 
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