First time breeding, species: N. Incei

[Quinzel]

So this is my first breeding attempt, I’ve got a mm gold variant (molted late september) and is currently ordering an adult female olive variant. I heard it is quite common in the US but it is a bit rare here in my country, I couldn’t even find an adult gold F and my first plan was to sell the mm but failed to find anyone who has an adult F incei and want to breed em.

I’ve watched some incei breeding on yt, looked on forums and blogs too, here’s my current plan:
1. Let the female rest in the enclosure for a week, feed them a big portion after, if they ate it and seem full already I’ll go ahead and mate them after another week
2. If it seems succesful to my amateur eye, I’ll still try feeding her a week after the they mate but if she refuses I’ll stop. If she still accepts I’ll stop after 2 feeding.
3. If she drops a sac I think I’ll be leaving the sac with her. I’ve read they incubate for less than a month, meanwhile I’ve also read advices to only take out the sac after a month. So is my decision to leave em correct?

another question that may be stupid is since they’re a dwarf, should I cover the air vents with mesh? I’ll be using 32x22x15cm black tinted plastic tub, the Nomoy pet brand

tips and advices greatly appreaciated

 

[viper69]

Without knowing the size of the vent holes, how do you expect people to answer the question

 

[Brewser]

Hold out for a Mature Female N. incei Gold imo

 

[cold blood]

I would urge you not to leave a sac to hatch with mom...this is a recipe for disaster.....pull any sac at two weeks and incubate...they develop incredibly fast....and feed the female up good after, as this species will generally double clutch.

Hold out for a Mature Female N. incei Gold imo

I couldn't disagree more....variety is the spice of life....why limit yourself and the country to just one variant? Especially when the olives are so much prettier.

It's also important to act fast, the males don't tend to be very long lived....holding out could easily backfire.

 

[Quinzel]

Without knowing the size of the vent holes, how do you expect people to answer the question

I thought the vent size could be easily seen just from the pics on google, It seems big enough for dwarf slings to come out of. It really was a stupid question after all I’ll just mesh it. I just thought I needed second opinions since I hadn’t hear about anyone using mesh protection when breeding dwarfs yet but ig that was obvious

Hold out for a Mature Female N. incei Gold imo

There likely wont be any tho. I didn’t realize there hasn’t been anyone importing inceis since almost a year, morever the gold ones which are rarer. He’s already 3month away from molt too, thougth at least I can contribute to a het gold inceis for the country market instead of none at all

I would urge you not to leave a sac to hatch with mom...this is a recipe for disaster.....pull any sac at two weeks and incubate...they develop incredibly fast....and feed the female up good after, as this species will generally double clutch.


I couldn't disagree more....variety is the spice of life....why limit yourself and the country to just one variant? Especially when the olives are so much prettier.

It's also important to act fast, the males don't tend to be very long lived....holding out could easily backfire.

noted, I’ll be preparing for the incubator then. Are there conditions that may make leaving the sac with the mom a better option or is taking it out always better?

the olives are more available here but still quite rare. I can barely find any golds tho, couldn’t even find anyone who has sold it for almost a year. Like I said before too, I thought it’s better to contribute with hets than none at all.

 

[viper69]

I thought the vent size could be easily seen just from the pics on google, It seems big enough for dwarf slings to come out of. It really was a stupid question after all I’ll just mesh it. I just thought I needed second opinions since I hadn’t hear about anyone using mesh protection when breeding dwarfs yet but ig that was obvious

Most people aren’t going to google
Not a stupid question, just not enough info provided

 

[sparticus]

When my female bred I left the sac with mom until they were about 2nd instar. She initially buried herself and I stopped offering food when she sealed herself in her nest. After the babies hatched out and developed enough to be eating on their own, I separated them out into individual containers. I put the adult's enclosure inside a larger container, but found the babies I hadn't pulled out yet didn't disperse naturally from the nest until they were past the third or 4th instar. She raised 50 healthy babies. Maybe there would have been more if I had taken them away from mom, I'm not sure. Overall it went pretty smoothly. My male just died recently, 8 months after molting out mature. He still was looking pretty healthy when he passed.