Ethmostigmus trigonopodus not eating,help!

[LeFanDesBugs]

Hey guys,

I recently received two Ethmostigmus trigonopodus from BugzUk.com .(The blue-legged morph,but not the electric leg from Kenya)
I keep them at 80-86° F.
One is a little afraid by the preys (a butterfly afraid it,so I dropped it into the terrarium (the butterfly,not the pede xD) and I waited.The next day I only found the wings,so I don't know if it has been brutal or if the fly died)and one is NOT eating.It is not interested by a mealworm etc.For him,this
is just..I don't know,a rock!
Notice I can see the two pedes from 9pm to 11am.So they are possibly hungry.Here is my trouble:if they are hungry why they don't
eat ?
I hope there is no major problem.The substrate is moist etc (80% of humidity).I have other pedes and I only had this problem with a
Scolopendra alternans (everglades morph) which ate only one time and next died...I see on the internet many feeding videos with
agressive trigonopodus so I'm worried.
Thanks for future help

 

[LeFanDesBugs]

Up :c
I will try to feed the one which ate a butterfly with a big cricket (2")

 

[Ripa]

Honestly, you can try to crush up crickets/ roaches and see if they'll just eat them dead. Maybe the exuding mutilated internals will generate a prominent scent that invokes a feeding response. It happened with my alternans, perhaps there's a chance you'll have similar results?

 

[LeFanDesBugs]

Thanks,I just placed a mealworm under his rock and he/she ate it.That's ok.The one which has eaten a few days ago has moulted
( I think,it is slightly bigger and I didn't see it for a while)
Good news
Thanks for helping. Alternans are pussies :'( was it a florida keys or an haïtian?

 

[Ripa]

Thanks,I just placed a mealworm under his rock and he/she ate it.That's ok.The one which has eaten a few days ago has moulted
( I think,it is slightly bigger and I didn't see it for a while)
Good news
Thanks for helping. Alternans are pussies :'( was it a florida keys or an haïtian?

Haitian- it was sold to me as a juvie, and at the moment it's 5+ inches, so hopefully it hits higher measurements, eventually. I'm looking into Ethmostigmus as well, however. I see Ken the Bugguy is selling some, but I have to put a hold on my collecting until my birthday roles around (I got a bit too collector-happy with my debit card this past semester haha). College student problems lol. Really would love to get my hands on one, though. The most typical pedes in the hobby are all of Scolopendra genus, and even then, subspinipes seems to be the most popular (with ironically having some of the worst venom- that isn't to say I'm not interested in others of that genus because I definitely am!).

 

[LeFanDesBugs]

The best species for me are Ets, Scolopendra subspinipes (hawaïan,thai jewel or cherry red morphs) , S.morsitans (red and black-stripped morph) and DEFINITELY Alipes multicosis / Scolopendra heros (castaneiceps or banded)
If you want any pics of Ethmostigmus trigonopodus,tell me

 

[Ripa]

The best species for me are Ets, Scolopendra subspinipes (hawaïan,thai jewel or cherry red morphs) , S.morsitans (red and black-stripped morph) and DEFINITELY Alipes multicosis / Scolopendra heros (castaneiceps or banded)
If you want any pics of Ethmostigmus trigonopodus,tell me

Definitely want to find a castaneiceps, but they're so rare :/. I saw some pedelings on a site for a relatively low price, but there's no feedback on who ordered from there so I don't know if I should trust them. Also interested in a dehaani and I'm curious- how big do Alipes multicosis get? I would love a flagtail if it measures a moderate size. I hate having to raise pedelings for the same reason I hate having to raise tiny inverts- they're so delicate. Right now I also have two 2-2.5 inch S. polymorpha pedelings (blue morphs) and they seem to be a little sluggish, probably from their seasonality.

Additionally, if you have any pics of Ethmostigmus, please share. I like their bulky appearance more than anything (they seem stockier in build than a lot of Scolopendra species from the pics I've seen in the past). I feel kinda foolish for originally thinking those guys were the "wannabe" Scolopendra, but I grew to appreciate them as much, if not a bit more- they look pretty stunning from what I can tell

 

[LeFanDesBugs]

No problem for the pics!

Hey,
I have owned a multicostis one year ago,an adult but not full grown.They get around 14 cm (5,5") and are pretty agressive and I always saw it between 9pm and midnight.
I agree Ethmostigmus species are really plumper than Scolopendra species.But it's possible to see the difference between the two genius while looking for the "breath holes" (sorry for this word,I had the right one two seconds ago and I lost it xD)
For you polymorphas,I think you're right but what is the tank's temperature?It is really important for centipedes..I'll try to get some pics for you tonight (I saw at least one of them everyday at night)
But I'm a little disappointed about their agressivity,I never saw one getting a prey,they always catch them when I'm not in my room.. and when I try to feed them "manually" they are real pussies :unhappy:

 

[Ripa]

Hey,
I have owned a multicosis one year ago,an adult but not full grown.They get around 14 cm (5,5") and are pretty agressive and I always saw it between 9pm and midnight.
I agree Ethmostigmus species are really plumper than Scolopendra species.But it's possible to see the difference between the two genius while looking for the "breath holes" (sorry for this word,I had the right one two seconds ago and I lost it xD)
For you polymorphas,I think you're right but what is the tank's temperature?It is really important for centipedes..I'll try to get some pics for you tonight (I saw at least one of them everyday at night)
But I'm a little disappointed about their agressivity,I never saw one getting a prey,they always catch them when I'm not in my room.. and when I try to feed them "manually" they are real pussies :unhappy:

Spiracles you're thinking of? xD It's alright, I facepalm when I forget the names of certain terms in the moment, then recall them later on. I'm still miffed about how I could forget the term "rictal bristles" for my ornithology exam, but recalled it right as I walked out the door! Anyways, before getting too off-topic, yea, the temps I keep my polymorpha pedelings in are similar temps to my alternans. Range is between 75-85 degrees Fahrenheit, given the time of day and what kind of day we're having. Honestly, my vinegaroon is a sparse eater too around this time, and I think it has to do with the time of year for them, when they should be in diapause (both originating from similar areas in the southwest). My main focus is always the humidity, though, as desiccation is my primary concern with pedes.
In the case of my alternans, if I open its enclosure to get a good glimpse of it eating, it picks up its food and hides underneath some sphagnum moss to finish it. It's kinda cute lol, but also a bit of a hassle if I wanna try and get footage of it eating (I can't get clear images from outside the enclosure because it's so humid in there, the condensation makes it difficult to see really anything inside haha).

 

[LeFanDesBugs]

Yes thanks xD
Ok temperature is good,so I think you're right!Yeah dessication is a big problem,what I do,when I setup a pede terrarium,is dropping about one liter of water in the substrate and mixing all for getting a moist substrate.I never had mite problems,so all's good.Your alternans is really clever!I think it hates being shot xD
My Ethmostigmus trigonopodus aren't out at the moment,I'm waiting for them
Do you like S.cingulata?Pretty much agressive specie

 

[LeFanDesBugs]

Hello,
I'll try to get some better pics later
The container:

The pede (The one which didn't molt)



I saw on a photo (first one) a white thing under two segments (mites?)

 

[Ripa]

Yes thanks xD
Ok temperature is good,so I think you're right!Yeah dessication is a big problem,what I do,when I setup a pede terrarium,is dropping about one liter of water in the substrate and mixing all for getting a moist substrate.I never had mite problems,so all's good.Your alternans is really clever!I think it hates being shot xD
My Ethmostigmus trigonopodus aren't out at the moment,I'm waiting for them
Do you like S.cingulata?Pretty much agressive specie

Haven't looked into cingulata too extensively, although I wouldn't be opposed to it. It would probably be something I'd get after dehaani and heros castaneiceps (they are my goal pedes, discounting things like galapagoensis, which cost quite a bit more than others, so a poor college student like myself may have to wait them off for a long while).

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Hello,
I'll try to get some better pics later
The container: View attachment 135171

The pede (The one which didn't molt)
View attachment 135172


I saw on a photo (first one) a white thing under two segments (mites?) View attachment 135173

Haha, very humble little home they've got there. I wish the best of luck with them- I always get nervous about raising young pedes because anything could happen to them at those stages. How is the humidity with Ethmostigmus? Is it as much as alternans, or considerably less?

 

[LeFanDesBugs]

Hey,
Tanzanian rainforest,so as much as alternans, 80-85% of humidity.They had a slightly bigger enclosure but I have a showcase (?,sorry for my english xD) and my mom wanted that I place them into it .(syntax problem for this sentence too ,I think..)And my terrariums (exo terra 30x30x45 and aquarium of 40x35x20 ) had not enough place .
So I bought exo terra faunariums instead but it looks worse.. but not bad IMO
I have had a S.cingulata for two years now(it was 1" and it is now 2,7"),quite easy specie and really agressive/active,I see it at least three times a week. If you want any pics,tell me!

 

[Ripa]

Hey,
Tanzanian rainforest,so as much as alternans, 80-85% of humidity.They had a slightly bigger enclosure but I have a showcase (?,sorry for my english xD) and my mom wanted that I place them into it .(syntax problem for this sentence too ,I think..)And my terrariums (exo terra 30x30x45 and aquarium of 40x35x20 ) had not enough place .
So I bought exo terra faunariums instead but it looks worse.. but not bad IMO
I have had a S.cingulata for two years now(it was 1" and it is now 2,7"),quite easy specie and really agressive/active,I see it at least three times a week. If you want any pics,tell me!

Yea, I'd love to get my pedes in ExoTerra glass enclosures- would honestly make viewing them easier and clearer. You can get a nano enclosure, which is 8x8x8 inches, or 20x20x20 cm and is the smallest model of the glass enclosures. Not sure how the international distribution of those are, though. I honestly think it would be fine for specimens of 5-6 inches, so they might work for all of your pedes.
And sure, I'd love to see some pics. Always a sucker for staring at pics of centipedes all day (I seem to have grown an attraction to chilopods above all other arthropods- not sure why).

 

[LeFanDesBugs]

Ok no problem for the pics,I'm always happy when I see good pics of species other than S.subspinipes (90% of the pics xD)
Yeah I would like to place them in nano exo terra but it's much more expensive (at least 4x the price for my faunariums, 8,99 €/each) and the eight is useless..Faunariums are also more escape-proof ..(the pede in the exo terra was about to escape when I entered in the room,it was on the iron grilling and I tried to get it on the floor and it escaped from the little holes for the cables,I got it with a bark).On amazon the products are shipped with premium in about 2 days,so really quick..good service but if you saw the work conditions for the employees..
EDIT:I will get another cingulata next week end,if I go 30 kilometers away from my home I can get some in a forest

 

[Ripa]

I was honestly eyeing the Exo Terra breeding boxes as possible alternatives. I like the little gizmos they have integrated in there (side feeding doors and whatnot), but I'm not sure how escape-proof they are

This one in particular is 5.7"h x 7.7"w x 11.8"l (14.5 x 19.6 x 30 centimeters). This is medium-size (for centipedes of around our current ownership size), but a large enclosure can be used to house the largest centipede species (8-9+ inches long). But again, I don't know how escape-proof they are.

 

[LeFanDesBugs]

Hey back!
My boxes are Faunariums,like this:
Note there are less trapdoors to open,better for centipedes..
Sidely,do S.alternans have a hard venom?Because I'm looking for getting one (I already got one but it was my first pede and I never saw it,and it died mysteriously..Additionally I ordered an haitian and I received a florida keys.... xD)
Getting S.cingulata pics for you

 

[Ripa]

alternans venom is actually supposed to be relatively mild compared to something like subspinipes. Additionally, even if it was a little more severe, the bite reports indicated that a good majority of their bites are dry-bites. There's supposed to be less nausea and feeling like you're going to die involved if you're envenomed lol
Also, much obliged for the pics!

 

[LeFanDesBugs]

Ok,so not for me alternans,but I'm not sure that I understood your message (bad english incoming xD)
But you will be disappointed about my pics,because it's a basic S;cingulata,not blue or even black just tiger morph,like polymorphas

 

[Ripa]

Sorry, bad choice of words on my part. Pretty much, alternans doesn't have terrible venom. You still wouldn't want to get bitten by an adult one, especially considering they can get up to 7 inches (18 centimeters) long (just the size alone might make the bite painful). You will probably experience swelling in the area of the bite for a significant period of time (ranging anywhere from a day to several days) and an alleged burning sensation. But looking through the bite reports of that species on this site, sometimes the centipede doesn't even inject venom, hence the dry bite.

And no problem about your cingulata. I honestly have determined I like the polymorpha's regular orange tiger morph over the blue morphs, since the colors with the more exotic coloration fade out as they grow older.