Eco Earth? Any cheaper alternatives?

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Whats a good alternative to EE?? Takes a lot of bricks of EE for bigger ts.


I have had some small mold issues with EE, but perhaps it was from lack of ventilation.
 
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Cocofiber is quite similar to Eco-earth (the same in many respects), ive not had many problems using them in the past/still using cocofiber now, yes ventilation can be a factor in mold problems, if it's a dry/desert sp then it will be less of a problem. others need Better ventilation to thrive.
 

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A 3 cu. ft. Bag of peat moss is like $10 and lasts freaking forever. I like mixing it with peat moss. I also sometimes mix in a cheap $3, 40lb bag of organic potting soil.
 

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I personally like coco fiber much more than peat moss cause peat is really dusty and when it drys out it takes forever to absorb moisture again.
 

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Top soil, the cheap stuff without added fertilizer. 40 lbs are less than $1.50. That's all I use.
 

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Top soil, the cheap stuff without added fertilizer. 40 lbs are less than $1.50. That's all I use.

Are you using the lowes brand top soil I also use it I mix it with peat moss and cocco fiber as well, just wondering does the stuff you get have a oil smell to ?
 

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You may just need to comparison shop around. I found an LPS that sells 3 packs for 7.99, which is significantly cheaper than any other local shop near me. Still more expensive than top soil but I'm paranoid about contamination when these places keep products very much laden with chemicals so close by.
 

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I personally like coco fiber much more than peat moss cause peat is really dusty and when it drys out it takes forever to absorb moisture again.
Exact same problem re: absorption happens with coco fiber, both short fiber and long fiber types.

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Whats a good alternative to EE?? Takes a lot of bricks of EE for bigger ts.
There are tons of supplier out there, from exotics, to greenhouses, example http://www.greners.com/i/growing-media/coco-based/cocogro-coir-fiber-5-kg-bale.html
 

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I found that top soil tends to attract gnats, I don't know why.
 

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my experience has been that if you get gnats it is generally because of too much moisture/ not enough ventilation or you left some old cricket in there somewhere. generally the moisture thing though. I keep my T's on a mix of peat and vermiculite and they all do fine.
 

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The cheapest soil you can use is the soil you dig up yourself and often times, you get much better quality soil this way. A good loamy clay, sand mixture.

With insufficient ventilation most every type of substrate will mold. Coco fiber is a bit acidic which drastically reduces mold growth but will not prevent it.
We have used Cocotek and Cocogro. We can usually find this sized bad for between $15 and $25 shipped from ebay. Here is a link.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CocoTek-Coir-Bale-5-kg-General-Hydroponics-/251305973243?pt=US_Hydroponics&hash=item3a8300d5fb
Virtually all soils will mold.... if they are organic. Only organic soils will mold because they have something for the fungus to break down. Inorganic soils (made of minerals instead of compostable matter) will not mold and is a prefferable substrate over organic matter. Try a good loamy clay/ sand mix and you will find better results and better behavior from your earth dwelling species.
 

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Virtually all soils will mold.... if they are organic. Only organic soils will mold because they have something for the fungus to break down. Inorganic soils (made of minerals instead of compostable matter) will not mold and is a prefferable substrate over organic matter. Try a good loamy clay/ sand mix and you will find better results and better behavior from your earth dwelling species.
That is basically what I stated that most all substrates will mold without proper ventilation. The problem arrises with mold for one of two reasons or a combination of the two. #1 lack of ventilation and #2 keeping the substrate too moist. Many new keepers need to keep in mind that wet substrate does not equal humidity but that is for a different thread. I personally have no issues with mold, simply stating that most of the more popular substrates have a higher potential of molding compared to coco fiber which is more acidic which helps it resist mold a bit more. I use have used this product for close to ten years in moist lay boxes for a few species of geckos we breed as well as for our T's and have had great success with it. That being said, most all of the substrates discussed when put in the correct setup will work very well.
 

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I found that top soil tends to attract gnats, I don't know why.
I keep my roaches and some of my Ts on Scott's topsoil. Haven't had any gnats yet, but I do get fruit flies in the roach bin from time to time.
 
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