Dynastes Hercules care

Beggottenson

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Hey all easy wondering if anyone had any of these beetles they seem very rare to me, I really want one very bad and someone near me is selling larvae, what would the care be like for the larvae and for the adult beetle
 

spookyvibes

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Hey all easy wondering if anyone had any of these beetles they seem very rare to me, I really want one very bad and someone near me is selling larvae, what would the care be like for the larvae and for the adult beetle
If you live anywhere in the states, take into consideration that owning them is illegal.
 

Ratmosphere

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Unless you can provide proper decayed flake substrate, I'd stay away from getting them. Males eat a ton of it as larvae. Also, they are illegal. There are other rhino/stag beetles you can purchase in the states. Dynastes grantii, Dynastes tityus, and Lucanus elaphus are among my favorite seasonally available.
 

davehuth

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Great alternative beetles are periodically available from very careful and knowledgable breeders on the beetle forum. That's also a great place to learn their care as well! :) http://beetleforum.net/
 

mantisfan101

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Wow that’s sad, there’s a lady near me that sells them which is weird, thanks for the info!
I believe 3 species of goliathus were removed from the plant pest list but you’ll have to check the original post by beetlesource. He was the one who got them legalized. If you look on beetleforum it’s there.
 

Perry Heenus

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I'm curious about this then type of substrate you mentioned . I know a guy that sells all this stuff, but was wondering where else you may be able to get proper substrate or do you always have to use this special blend the breeders always sell.

Unless you can provide proper decayed flake substrate, I'd stay away from getting them. Males eat a ton of it as larvae. Also, they are illegal. There are other rhino/stag beetles you can purchase in the states. Dynastes grantii, Dynastes tityus, and Lucanus elaphus are among my favorite seasonally available.
 

mantisfan101

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I'm curious about this then type of substrate you mentioned . I know a guy that sells all this stuff, but was wondering where else you may be able to get proper substrate or do you always have to use this special blend the breeders always sell.
It can vary but the substrate composition varies from genus to genus or even species to species. You can find rottem hardwood and rottem hardwood leaves easily but if you only have softwood you might have to ferment your own sawdust to make rotten hardwood which can be time consuming.
 

Perry Heenus

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I live around the redwood Forrest there's lots of trails and such for fallen rotting trees and leaf litter. I almost just bought a bag of wood pulp mulch from Home Depot, but figured that might screw things up. What I've ordered so far is 2 hercules beetles US breed and the Grantis. I plan on continuing to accumulate and breed, but I don't wanna be buying substrate from people and cut into my profits so I'm trying to figure out how best to acquire this stuff myself.
 

Ratmosphere

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I can teach you how to make it if you want! I have a very nice recipe.
 

Perry Heenus

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Oh hell yeah that'd be great! I've only found like one supplier in the US too so if you know anymore that'd be helpful.
 

Perry Heenus

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The website is bugsincyberspace.com. He has the tityus not the hercules. I ordered a Hercules from some guy in Thailand on eBay. Says he sells them as Feeder food for other animals. Lol $35 meal.
 

The Mantis Menagerie

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Unless you can provide proper decayed flake substrate, I'd stay away from getting them. Males eat a ton of it as larvae. Also, they are illegal. There are other rhino/stag beetles you can purchase in the states. Dynastes grantii, Dynastes tityus, and Lucanus elaphus are among my favorite seasonally available.
Technically, D. granti, D. tityus, and L. elephus are also regulated for interstate transport. If you can find them in-state, then you are fine.
Wow thank you for think I never knew this why are they illegal? Would they classify as an invasive species ?
The USDA can regulate any non-human organism that directly or indirectly harms plants. They derive this authority from the Plant Protection Act, but as I think many hobbyists would agree, it is applied a bit excessively.
I believe it’s because of the belief that the larvae eat tree roots which is false but it accounts for all species.
I was given that reason in reference to Dynastes. I posted a thread on Beetleforum: http://beetleforum.net/topic/3913-do-dynastes-larvae-eat-live-tree-roots/.
Wow that’s sad, there’s a lady near me that sells them which is weird, thanks for the info!
Unfortunately, it is not really that unusual that someone sells insects illegally in the US. You cannot legally get most non-native insects without a containment facility and a PPQ 526 permit, so most people selling them are doing so illegally.
I believe 3 species of goliathus were removed from the plant pest list but you’ll have to check the original post by beetlesource. He was the one who got them legalized. If you look on beetleforum it’s there.
The Goliathus legalization is real, and it will hopefully be followed by other species. The Japanese government was restrictive also, but they were shown enough evidence that, in 1999, they deregulated many exotic beetles. Now Japan is like the beetle breeding capital of the world. I would say that there is not really a "plant pest list." It is more like a "non-plant pest list." The USDA regulates families and orders of insects and then deregulates one species at a time.
 

Beggottenson

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The website is bugsincyberspace.com. He has the tityus not the hercules. I ordered a Hercules from some guy in Thailand on eBay. Says he sells them as Feeder food for other animals. Lol $35 meal.
Hahahaha you have to let me know how that goes lmao, I’m guessing since it is a feeder it’s allowed to be shipped
 

Ratmosphere

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Technically, D. granti, D. tityus, and L. elephus are also regulated for interstate transport. If you can find them in-state, then you are fine.
Technically, they are but nobody cares about them. They're well established in the hobby already.
 
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