Don't take drugs, just eat fish!!!

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Wow gotta love it.
Being off the coast of Florida I'm surprised there's only pharmaceuticals present!
 

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Wow gotta love it.
Being off the coast of Florida I'm surprised there's only pharmaceuticals present!
One fish had 17 drugs in it. It's disgusting how polluted the planet. Man's the worst animal ever evolved.
 

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One fish had 17 drugs in it. It's disgusting how polluted the planet. Man's the worst animal ever evolved.
Nasty. With everyone so proud about being on top of the food chain, they tend to disregard all other life, even if we consume it.
May be on top, but not very much foresight going on.
 

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With the plastics, pharmaceuticals and endocrine disrupting compounds that pollute our waterways. You cannot convince me otherwise that continuous exposure isn’t physically and psychologically screwing with humans. I did a research paper on EDC’s a while back. One thing that stood out to me was how researchers kept noting that while exposure has shown negative effects on wildlife and reproductive cycles, not enough evidence has been noted to determine long term effects on humans. Now I know that could mean they believe it does, then just haven’t determined what specifically is happening to humans. Then I look at the world around me and notice girls physically maturing at much younger rates, boys and men becoming more effeminate. Developing gynecomastia, lower testosterone levels, lower sperm counts, etc.. mental disorders out the freaking roof, among a whole list of other things. Just to use as a comparison/example Look at the average physique of men and women in the 50’s compared to now. Look at the time frame as well. I believe plastics started becoming widely used in the 60’s. Pharma advancements have grown exponentially, consider hormone based in this case, plus psychotics. If that fish had 17 different pharmaceuticals in its tissue, just think about what the average person is being exposed to/has in their system at any given time.
 

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With the plastics, pharmaceuticals and endocrine disrupting compounds that pollute our waterways. You cannot convince me otherwise that continuous exposure isn’t physically and psychologically screwing with humans. I did a research paper on EDC’s a while back. One thing that stood out to me was how researchers kept noting that while exposure has shown negative effects on wildlife and reproductive cycles, not enough evidence has been noted to determine long term effects on humans. Now I know that could mean they believe it does, then just haven’t determined what specifically is happening to humans. Then I look at the world around me and notice girls physically maturing at much younger rates, boys and men becoming more effeminate. Developing gynecomastia, lower testosterone levels, lower sperm counts, etc.. mental disorders out the freaking roof, among a whole list of other things. Just to use as a comparison/example Look at the average physique of men and women in the 50’s compared to now. Look at the time frame as well. I believe plastics started becoming widely used in the 60’s. Pharma advancements have grown exponentially, consider hormone based in this case, plus psychotics. If that fish had 17 different pharmaceuticals in its tissue, just think about what the average person is being exposed to/has in their system at any given time.
Yes.... there's no way that plastics aren't responsible for all of this.

One fish had 17 drugs in it. It's disgusting how polluted the planet. Man's the worst animal ever evolved.
Any fun drugs, though?

I'll posit here this controversial notion, & that is everything is exactly how it's supposed to be. What about ANY of this isn't natural? The staggering drop in birth rates, the hyper maturity of young girls (with nude selfies in elementary school, to the Only Fans pages to celebrate their 18th birthdays), the feminization of boys...down to the mass murders taking place every other week (of soft targets, by feminized "men")...what part of ANY of this isn't natural? Human nature is to experiment & explore, leading to new frontiers of science & development. OF COURSE there's going to be unintended consequences,but it was our nature to tip that domino, just as any affect or effect to them is wholly natural....is anyone implying that we aren't a naturally occurring species &/or that our nature is somehow supernatural? The.vast majority of life that has ever existed on this planet is extinct, yet their contributions lead to the next's ability to thrive; just think of the "air pollution" known as free oxygen...did those microbes understand the consequences of their natural evolutions? With that as a backdrop, it's hard to define a Mike's high landfill as being any different from a pristine rainforest. The only difference is that we seeded one, & inherited the other...chemicals & all. Nothing we as a species has done has not ultimately been of the earth; as far as I know, we haven't imported any elements from any galaxy or dimension that isn't indigenous to this earth, so how is the manipulation of such on any level a bad thing? Just because it's us that's suffering? Who knows what life will evolve thanks to us, millennia after our own extinction? Are we more entitled to life than them?
I don't immediately subscribe to the "specieal baby-boomer" mindset. Maybe it's ultimately a good thing that our daughters are whores & our son's are kissless killers... convince me otherwise, in a geologic timeframe...
 

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Yes.... there's no way that plastics aren't responsible for all of this.


Any fun drugs, though?

I'll posit here this controversial notion, & that is everything is exactly how it's supposed to be. What about ANY of this isn't natural? The staggering drop in birth rates, the hyper maturity of young girls (with nude selfies in elementary school, to the Only Fans pages to celebrate their 18th birthdays), the feminization of boys...down to the mass murders taking place every other week (of soft targets, by feminized "men")...what part of ANY of this isn't natural? Human nature is to experiment & explore, leading to new frontiers of science & development. OF COURSE there's going to be unintended consequences,but it was our nature to tip that domino, just as any affect or effect to them is wholly natural....is anyone implying that we aren't a naturally occurring species &/or that our nature is somehow supernatural? The.vast majority of life that has ever existed on this planet is extinct, yet their contributions lead to the next's ability to thrive; just think of the "air pollution" known as free oxygen...did those microbes understand the consequences of their natural evolutions? With that as a backdrop, it's hard to define a Mike's high landfill as being any different from a pristine rainforest. The only difference is that we seeded one, & inherited the other...chemicals & all. Nothing we as a species has done has not ultimately been of the earth; as far as I know, we haven't imported any elements from any galaxy or dimension that isn't indigenous to this earth, so how is the manipulation of such on any level a bad thing? Just because it's us that's suffering? Who knows what life will evolve thanks to us, millennia after our own extinction? Are we more entitled to life than them?
I don't immediately subscribe to the "specieal baby-boomer" mindset. Maybe it's ultimately a good thing that our daughters are whores & our son's are kissless killers... convince me otherwise, in a geologic timeframe...
Before someone can debate

You must define “natural”. Your entire argument is based on one word ;)

Also you have a massive oversimplification of some things.

Those drugs for example would not have been found in the ocean on their own without man. Simply because man created them, doesn’t make it natural to ME.
 

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Not surprising since Florida led the opioid crisis years ago but what isn't affected by the stupidity and greed from the human race.
 

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We already new this, mankind is the great destroyer. It's no secret homo sapiens are a plague on all living systems, even our own! I mean there were many other homo spp. and theyre all mostly gone due to one thing, our race. All species needs check and balances to prevent this from happening thats actually how species survive, I dont doubt our human race will likely wipe itself out on this planet eventually from our own various pollutions and overpopulations, were already headed that way! Eventually everything will shut down, it basic biology of ecosystems. At least thats the way I see it!!
 

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Before someone can debate

You must define “natural”. Your entire argument is based on one word ;)

Also you have a massive oversimplification of some things.

Those drugs for example would not have been found in the ocean on their own without man. Simply because man created them, doesn’t make it natural to ME.
So...nature would be "of & by the planet Earth"

-you're overcomplicating, if I'm oversimplifying

- those drugs are wholly naturally occurring because man is of "nature" (what's YOUR definition?), & anything resulting from nature is natural by default....humans are no exception, as we've yet to concoct anything that is not itself of this earth... regardless of how many processes it may have endured to arrive at whatever state we currently choose to label as "pollution."
I'm condoning it with the same vigor as those early cyanobacterium were when they chose to eliminate themselves by manufacturing oxygen to the point of suffocation; who benefited? We did...at their demise. I'm arguing that our demise... brought on by our own creations...may well open the gate for even more advanced life, unfathomable to us, to evolve...
 

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We already new this, mankind is the great destroyer. It's no secret homo sapiens are a plague on all living systems, even our own! I mean there were many other homo spp. and theyre all mostly gone due to one thing, our race. All species needs check and balances to prevent this from happening thats actually how species survive, I dont doubt our human race will likely wipe itself out on this planet eventually from our own various pollutions and overpopulations, were already headed that way! Eventually everything will shut down, it basic biology of ecosystems. At least thats the way I see it!!
This is likely true. I guess what Im missing in any argument is the explanation as to why our species deserves time more than any other? Because of the nature of our intelligence? I have kids, so it's not like I'm blind to futurity, but, but we've realistically got several more generations AT LEAST beyond our current's expiration to do whatever with...I'm actually more inclined to believe that we'll make it to the stars before we solve our terrestrial problems, LoL
 

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So if you eat fish while you are on medication, then it would automatically count as over dose?
This just made me wonder. What if you ate a fish with all this in it and then do a pee drug test 🙀…. Could the test be positive cause of the drugs in the fish?
How crazy would that be.!?!

How do we fix the world? can you fix it while also breaking it? This is awful
 

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This just made me wonder. What if you ate a fish with all this in it and then do a pee drug test 🙀…. Could the test be positive cause of the drugs in the fish?
I would imagine if you ate that fish, you would take in substances. But the amounts would be so small that by the time your body metabolizes them, they wouldn’t even register on a drug test. But in the case of long term exposure, like the fish, I’d argue that if you ate that fish, 3-4 times a day for a month straight, those substances would at least show up in a blood test, etc.
 

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I would imagine if you ate that fish, you would take in substances. But the amounts would be so small that by the time your body metabolizes them, they wouldn’t even register on a drug test. But in the case of long term exposure, like the fish, I’d argue that if you ate that fish, 3-4 times a day for a month straight, those substances would at least show up in a blood test, etc.
What if I ate a reaaaalllllly biiiiiiigggg fish. 🤓
 

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So...nature would be "of & by the planet Earth"

-you're overcomplicating, if I'm oversimplifying

- those drugs are wholly naturally occurring because man is of "nature" (what's YOUR definition?), & anything resulting from nature is natural by default....humans are no exception, as we've yet to concoct anything that is not itself of this earth... regardless of how many processes it may have endured to arrive at whatever state we currently choose to label as "pollution."
I'm condoning it with the same vigor as those early cyanobacterium were when they chose to eliminate themselves by manufacturing oxygen to the point of suffocation; who benefited? We did...at their demise. I'm arguing that our demise... brought on by our own creations...may well open the gate for even more advanced life, unfathomable to us, to evolve...
I get what you are saying. My friend has the exact same point of you as yours regarding "natural". I don't see it that way.

Sure cyano-- natural, giving rise to others- natural

Just wanted to see if you thought like her, and you do.

.I'm actually more inclined to believe that we'll make it to the stars before we solve our terrestrial problems
What does "make it to the stars" mean here?
 

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I get what you are saying. My friend has the exact same point of you as yours regarding "natural". I don't see it that way.

Sure cyano-- natural, giving rise to others- natural

Just wanted to see if you thought like her, and you do.



What does "make it to the stars" mean here?
Just out of curiosity, is German your mother tongue?
"Cyano" as in "cyanobacteria," that which (is thought to) provide"us" (as in our early ancestors) the benefit of oxygen to breathe, & this evolve (do you 'believe' in evolution?)..
By "make it to the stars," I mean that I'm more likely to believe that we'll "evolve" to be an interstellar species before we'll clean up the mess we've made on this planet; i.e, we're doomed, LoL
 

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Just out of curiosity, is German your mother tongue?
"Cyano" as in "cyanobacteria," that which (is thought to) provide"us" (as in our early ancestors) the benefit of oxygen to breathe, & this evolve (do you 'believe' in evolution?)..
By "make it to the stars," I mean that I'm more likely to believe that we'll "evolve" to be an interstellar species before we'll clean up the mess we've made on this planet; i.e, we're doomed, LoL
Germ- no, what gave you that idea?? No one ever asked me that! 🤣

Stars- meaning we have a permanent base on Mars OR we are traveling around to/from stars etc like in Star Trek/Star Wars
 
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