Does anyone have an accurate photo of what D. variegatus actually looks like?

WhyamIlikethis

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So 5-ish months ago, I went to a reptile show (Repticon) and purchased a tailless whip scorpion. I had kept D. diadema in the past and wanted to do it again. so I found a vendor selling 'D. variegatus' and bought one of them. I noticed white spots on her carapace, which is more common in Phrynus SP. I saw how small her pedipalps are compared to most Damon SP. and was wondering if she was a D. variegatus because of how rare they are in the hobby. I see different tailless whip scorpions being misidentified as D. variegatus both online and in reptile expos all the time and can't get an actual photo. any help would be appreciated :)

I think she might be a Phrynus whitei
 

Sarkhan42

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So 5-ish months ago, I went to a reptile show (Repticon) and purchased a tailless whip scorpion. I had kept D. diadema in the past and wanted to do it again. so I found a vendor selling 'D. variegatus' and bought one of them. I noticed white spots on her carapace, which is more common in Phrynus SP. I saw how small her pedipalps are compared to most Damon SP. and was wondering if she was a D. variegatus because of how rare they are in the hobby. I see different tailless whip scorpions being misidentified as D. variegatus both online and in reptile expos all the time and can't get an actual photo. any help would be appreciated :)

I think she might be a Phrynus whitei
To answer your question: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1439609205000425 This is an excellent paper that includes many images of species from the variegatus group, and actually provides a key for them.

http://www.amblypygi.org/?page_id=202 This is also a site with some fantastic photos of amblypygi.

That being said, 99% chance you do not have variegatus. They are outstandingly rare in the hobby, with none in the united states to my knowledge. If you're seeing eyespots on a WC animal, chances are you have a mislabled Phrynus whitei. If you post images we should be able to tell you for certain.
 

WhyamIlikethis

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To answer your question: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1439609205000425 This is an excellent paper that includes many images of species from the variegatus group, and actually provides a key for them.

http://www.amblypygi.org/?page_id=202 This is also a site with some fantastic photos of amblypygi.

That being said, 99% chance you do not have variegatus. They are outstandingly rare in the hobby, with none in the united states to my knowledge. If you're seeing eyespots on a WC animal, chances are you have a mislabled Phrynus whitei. If you post images we should be able to tell you for certain.
Thank you so much! I'll try to get some photos. I think she is a P. whitei

Post photos of your whiptail
Okay, I will take some photos later.

To answer your question: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1439609205000425 This is an excellent paper that includes many images of species from the variegatus group, and actually provides a key for them.

http://www.amblypygi.org/?page_id=202 This is also a site with some fantastic photos of amblypygi.

That being said, 99% chance you do not have variegatus. They are outstandingly rare in the hobby, with none in the united states to my knowledge. If you're seeing eyespots on a WC animal, chances are you have a mislabled Phrynus whitei. If you post images we should be able to tell you for certain.
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Post photos of your whiptail

To answer your question: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1439609205000425 This is an excellent paper that includes many images of species from the variegatus group, and actually provides a key for them.

http://www.amblypygi.org/?page_id=202 This is also a site with some fantastic photos of amblypygi.

That being said, 99% chance you do not have variegatus. They are outstandingly rare in the hobby, with none in the united states to my knowledge. If you're seeing eyespots on a WC animal, chances are you have a mislabled Phrynus whitei. If you post images we should be able to tell you for certain.
Post photos of your whiptail

I think she's a P. whitei
 

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Sarkhan42

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Yay! thanks for all you all have done :)

do you know what variation she is? there are a lot. with many of them being entirely different species.
This specimen likely comes from Nicaragua, and is in my personal opinion what should currently be considered "true" Phrynus whitei, given the descriptions I've read of the holotype(which I hope to get to see someday). Granted like you mentioned, there is quite a bit of disagreement on what can or cannot be considered whitei at this time. Until a revision is done, incorporating genetics, better morphological characters, etc, it's a bit of a debate/up in the air.
 
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