Do male T's die after breeding?

[Drezan]

The title says it all.

 

[Sarkhan42]

Not unless they get eaten in their mad dash after the deed is done.

 

[antinous]

No, but males that have had their final molt don’t survive for that long usually after.

 

[Drezan]

No, but males that have had their final molt don’t survive for that long usually after.

How do I know if it's a males final molt?

Also do you mean if they mate after the males final molt? Or just after the molt in general?

 

[Theneil]

i don't believe the act of breeding immediately causes any change to the males life span. Side effects like being eaten by the female can deffinitely shorten it though.

 

[Sarkhan42]

How do I know if it's a males final molt?

After the male has matured certain characters will become apparent. The presence of emboli(boxing glove like tips to the pedipalps) and in some species tibial hooks(small hooks underneath the frontmost pair of legs used in mating). I assume someone will post pictures, I would but I don't have access atm.

And a male is only able to mate once he has molted to maturity, which will be his last molt.

 

[antinous]

How do I know if it's a males final molt?

All mature males will have bulbous pedipalps.

Also do you mean if they mate after the males final molt? Or just after the molt in general?

Males can only mate after their final molt, that is when the clock starts ticking

 

[Drezan]

Oh wow. Guess I better mate while I can at that point. Thanks for your help!

 

[antinous]

Oh wow. Guess I better mate while I can at that point. Thanks for your help!

To reiterate what I said in the other thread, you seem pretty new in the hobby. No offense, but I think you should wait a couple years before breeding, the T’s will still be there then. No need to rush things.

 

[Sarkhan42]

Oh wow. Guess I better mate while I can at that point. Thanks for your help!

Keep in mind if you intend to breed (I wouldn't just starting into keeping) those spiderlings need to go somewhere. Depending on the species, this may be hundreds to even thousands of babies, and even the most iconic species don't exactly sell overnight. Just food for thought.

 

[Dovey]

You are asking a lot of good questions. Another way to tell a male is in his ultimate molt is that his legs will grow much longer in respect to his body size. Not every species is this way, but many species feature mature males that are extremely leggy.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

The title says it all.

No but if they make it to breeding unless your fast they won’t be around long .
Bigger males I’ve seen were phampho , and theraphosa( never seen t stirmi male up close ).
They live 1-3 years , some deteriorate faster then others they get more and more frail. Often wear there legs out from roaming the container!

Maybe your thinking they die fast like true spiders males . Female can kill a male in seconds .

 

[The Grym Reaper]

They live 1-3 years

I know of people with MM Brachys/Grammos that are still going strong after more than 4 years.

All mature males possess emboli (little bulbs at the ends of the pedipalps that kinda resemble a scorpion's stinger), only some species have tibial hooks.

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I have a video of Deathcry (P. subfusca 'Lowland) popping his cherry courtesy of another member here, you can see the emboli better in that.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2270625806284179

 

[Teal]

Oh wow. Guess I better mate while I can at that point. Thanks for your help!

Or you can trade, sell, or loan out the male. I do hate to see mature males not be used, but novice keepers can't quite prepare for what comes with pairing and caring for the slings. It is a lot of work - hundreds of slings to feed and water, plus working with buyers/learning how to properly pack and ship Ts/etc.

 

[Tenebrarius]

as previous users have stated, you might want to put off breeding, I am new to these boards, and the hobby breeding is a serious project that I wouldn't attempt to pull off unless I'd research it more and had an expert level of tarantulas, I spend a lot of time here getting advice and seeing the questions, I have a pretty good understanding of my Ts, but if I didn't know about T maturity I wouldn't even consider breeding, I am way too noob to breed, all my Ts are meant to become display specimen/species and just plan on just trading my males.

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I wouldn't own a car if i didn't know how to drive, good luck, if you really want to jump into breeding there's lots of old post about it and videos online. memorize the law.

 

[Bob Lee]

Dude, I have to tell you something. Reading couple of your threads you apear to be EXTREMELY new to the hobby, to the point you don't even now the bare minium of spider nature. I know that this is a amazing hobby and it's fun and it's exciting and all of that, but you really need to chill. I'm not saying that you should start with something tiny and crappy and waste years getting ready just to breed spiders, I'm saying that you need to do RESEARCH, proper research before you rush into something like this. Because when you mess something up it's not just a waste of money, you are also killing something with it and that could really make you not wanting to keep going. I am also new to this hobby and I spend hours everyday researching, looking at every forum every post every comment for thing I might need and I still feel unprepared. A good place to start is youtube, look at how people with experience do it, instead of asking every basic question on here(Not saying that's bad.... It's simply better to read instead of waiting for comments)

 

[viper69]

Sometimes

Dude, I have to tell you something. Reading couple of your threads you apear to be EXTREMELY new to the hobby, to the point you don't even now the bare minium of spider nature. I know that this is a amazing hobby and it's fun and it's exciting and all of that, but you really need to chill. I'm not saying that you should start with something tiny and crappy and waste years getting ready just to breed spiders, I'm saying that you need to do RESEARCH, proper research before you rush into something like this. Because when you mess something up it's not just a waste of money, you are also killing something with it and that could really make you not wanting to keep going. I am also new to this hobby and I spend hours everyday researching, looking at every forum every post every comment for thing I might need and I still feel unprepared. A good place to start is youtube, look at how people with experience do it, instead of asking every basic question on here(Not saying that's bad.... It's simply better to read instead of waiting for comments)

Couldn't agree more. The crazy part is people rather just dump their question here without actually searching, thinking it's quicker. Truth is, it's faster to google than to post, and wait around for an answer, esp for those that are so basic.

Society is just lazier and lazier, tha's the truth.

 

[Dovey]

Society is just lazier and lazier, tha's the truth.

I'd refute that argument, if I had the energy.

 

[Drezan]

I have been doing research and watching many different youtube videos on the subject. Really I just come here for more clarification.

 

[SonsofArachne]

If newbies didn't ask the same questions over and over again, 'Tarantula Questions & Discussions' would be half empty (or half full, if you're a positive thinker).