Determination

[Merijn]

Anyone, please tell me what type of spider this is. It is a (dead) spider, picture taken in Rwanda, fell from the curtain in the house of a friend of mine.

Thanx!

 

[Scorpendra]

definitely some species of phoneutria. i'd have to guess boliviensis.

 

[blacktara]

Phoneutria

You're saying that because of the red chelicerae?

What's the thing doing in Rwanda?

 

[Scorpendra]

also because of the yellow areas on the cephalothorax and the gray-ish legs, but mainly the chelicerae. the spider almost mirrors a picture of P. Boliviensis i saw on that french gea galleries site, except for this one being a corpse, of course.

http://geagallerie.free.fr/galerie_a_araneomorphes.htm

left column, down one.

 

[Spaceman_Spiff]

blacktara has a point here, there are no Phoneutria species in rwanda.
See:
http://research.amnh.org/entomology/spiders/catalog/CTENIDAE.html
Phoneutria occurr in the neotropis only.

greets
Bernhard

 

[metallica]

try SPARASSIDAE family (the huntsman spiders)

http://research.amnh.org/entomology/spiders/catalog/SPARASSIDAE.html
now all you need is to look for rwanda, or 1 of it's neighbour countries.

 

[Steven]

Came across some West-African spider names 2 Eddy ?

 

[Crotalus]

definitely some species of phoneutria. i'd have to guess boliviensis.

What makes you think its even a wandering spider?
Thats impossible to tell from that picture.

/Lelle

 

[jeroen]

What makes you think its even a wandering spider?
Thats impossible to tell from that picture.

/Lelle

(Disclaimer upfront: I'm clueless )

Those black spines on the legs, arn't those specific to the wanderers?
Also, the build of the legs (short knee part...patella, I think it is), seems the same. And the eyes arrangement, as far as visable from the picture looks quite the same as that p. in the pictures of the French site.

In general, are red chelicerae on wanderers specific to Phoneutria?

Looking on this site:
http://entomology.unl.edu/images/spiders/spiders2.htm
A wanderer with nice red chelic. is called Cupiennius sallei.

 

[metallica]

(Disclaimer upfront: I'm clueless )


A wanderer with nice red chelic. is called Cupiennius sallei.

that is a huntsman spider.... from costa rica.....middle America..... not Africa

 

[Merijn]

Thanx for the posts so far.

By the way, this spider is from Ruanda FOR SURE.

 

[orcrist]

The spider in the pic is not P. Nigrivinter, from what I see in molitor's link. Phoneutria has stripes on it's face leading up to the eyes, with red in between, not just on the chelcirae. The red is also darker on the phoneutria, although this could be variable, and the palps are striped.

 

[Scorpendra]

i just figured that the colors might have faded because it's dead. when i look around the eyes, i see a bit of very faded black and red.

 

[NRF]

try SPARASSIDAE family (the huntsman spiders)

http://research.amnh.org/entomology/spiders/catalog/SPARASSIDAE.html
now all you need is to look for rwanda, or 1 of it's neighbour countries.

The eye pattern is typical for Ctenidae (wandering spiders) and there are many genera of this family in Africa. Thalassius and some other pisaurid genera also have the same very special eye pattern with small anterior lateral eyes. This latter group was earlier also considered to belong to Ctenidae by some authors (Lehtinen 1967).