Dealer for "uncommon" snakes

[Lookingforsnake]

Hello, I have spent a bunch of time scouring online and doing searches, finding tons of people who sell boas, corn snakes, etc.....however I am looking for any or all of the snakes from the list below.....does anyone have any suggestions on anyone to contact for these species?
Thanks for your consideration. I hope everyone is having a great day.

Eastern racer ~ Coluber constrictor
Ringneck snake ~ Diadophis punctatus
Milk snake ~ Lampropeltis triangulum
Northern water snake ~ Nerodia sipedon
Smooth green snake ~ Opheodrys vernalis
Brown snake ~ Storeria dekayi
Red-bellied snake ~ Storeria occipitomaculata
Eastern ribbon snake ~ Thamnophis sauritus
Common garter snake ~ Thamnophis sirtalis

 

[Mushroom Spore]

On a related note, if anyone knows of a dealer that carries rubber boas for a reasonable amount of money, let me know? I've been daydreaming about them for ages, but the last dealer I had bookmarked that carried them eventually stopped doing so.

 

[xchondrox]

I have found 5 of those species on my property, and before you ask no i wont catch one for you. You will be lucky to find a seller that has any C.B. specimens on your list, aside from the gartersnakes. Not only will they be WC's but 'most' reputable dealers/breeders wont even mess with the species mentioned, simply because they are WC snakes that will probably end up dieing. Not to mention that most all of those are flighty/musk/hide all the time/or eat wierd things for snakes.

If your from the US and dead set on getting one either get a CB garter or Milksnake, Scott Feltzer (think i spelt it right) has tons of different garters and milksnakes are easy to come across just check the KS classifieds. Or you could take your chances and go on a field collecting trip, you'll have a better chance at acclimating a feshly WC snake than one that has been sitting at a shady wholesalers shop. BUT STICK TO CB!

If your not in the US just forget about it, no one would take the time to export any of those.

MS, check the KS classifieds they are on there sometimes. Just once again make sure to get CB!

 

[Elapid]

Eastern racer ~ Coluber constrictor -- nasty disposition, very fast and large.
Ringneck snake ~ Diadophis punctatus -- tend to eat lizards and slender salamanders. pretty, but typically don't thrive in captivity
Milk snake ~ Lampropeltis triangulum -- many different and rare milksnakes are easily found in the hobby classifieds.
Northern water snake ~ Nerodia sipedon -- nasty, fish-eating ugly animals. not rare or hard to find. catch one if you must have one.
Smooth green snake ~ Opheodrys vernalis -- interesting insectivorous animals. relatively calm and small. not uncommon.
Brown snake ~ Storeria dekayi -- don't these eat worms or something?
Red-bellied snake ~ Storeria occipitomaculata -- gonna need to feed this one fish i think. or frogs.
Eastern ribbon snake ~ Thamnophis sauritus -- don't typically like being held. they crap on you and smell horrible. eat fish/frogs.
Common garter snake ~ Thamnophis sirtalis -- these are readily available on many lists. the blue ones are nice, but still have a tendancy to musk on you.

most of the animals you've listed are only relatively unavailable from wholesalers because they eat odd diets or make lousy captives, or jsut don' tsell well. most of the ones you've listed can be easily collected and shouldn't be hard to get, only hard to care for due to their specialized diets.

most dealers feed mice/rats so that's what they sell; animals that eat mice/rats.

good luck!

 

[crpy]

the majority of what S. occipitomaculata eats are amphiuma and sirens.
They sell these at the herp expos wc here in fla, I'm sure they all die.

 

[Mister Internet]

Your best bet will be a show... try to attend a reputable one in your area, and keep your eyes open. Unfortunately, until one of the species on your list starts eating rodents, or some ridiculous, aesthetically pleasing genetic flaw can be exploited by dealers making people think they can make a hundred thousand dollars breeding Pewteriffic Blonde Honey Platinum Albino Patternless Ribbon Snakes, you're ona bit of a rough errand... best of luck, native species, while sometimes quite difficult to care for, are very cool. Just don't get in over your head, the ones you have listed are a lot of work.

 

[Malcara]

Ringneck Snakes

Where I live in Florida we have little 3-4 inch snakes all black with orange ring around its neck. Thats the only ringneck I know of, so If thats what your looking for, next time I see one I'll catch it for you.

 

[dtknow]

the majority of what S. occipitomaculata eats are amphiuma and sirens.
They sell these at the herp expos wc here in fla, I'm sure they all die.

Die because people don't know to feed them sirens...or people aren't willing to?

If you live in the gulf states...sirens would seem easy enough. I'd be willing to bet eventually they could be trained onto fish or something else a bit easier to acquire.

 

[crpy]

Die because people don't know to feed them sirens...or people aren't willing to?

If you live in the gulf states...sirens would seem easy enough. I'd be willing to bet eventually they could be trained onto fish or something else a bit easier to acquire.

I mean die because they cant keep finding amphiuma or sirens.

Yes sirens, and especially amphiuma are around but it takes some work to get them. But I guess what I'm saying is, I'm willing to bet that most people that buy S. occipitomaculata will end up killing them because they are not easy to keep.

And I suppose one could keep a frozen amphiuma and rub it on a mouse or fish but I wish them luck with that. Anyway ime that spp. does not do well in captivity.

 

[JohnEDove]

Try Glades Herp Farm. They carry a wide variety and in the only dealing I had with them they were very honest.
http://www.gherp.com/colubrids.htm

 

[357wheelgunner]

Aren't most of those species from the midwest?

I know we used to catch some HUGE garder snakes in Wisconsin, some so big that we relocated them because we didn't want to exterminate them and they were in the house. One was so big that it drew blood when it bit my friend, and he got a really wierd infection at the bite site.

I'd be shocked if you couldn't find someone to catch some of the species for you if compensated. We had a big hole in the side of our yard where there were sometimes a dozen or so garter snakes in the grass around it.

 

[JohnEDove]

On a related note, if anyone knows of a dealer that carries rubber boas for a reasonable amount of money, let me know? I've been daydreaming about them for ages, but the last dealer I had bookmarked that carried them eventually stopped doing so.

I have a pair I am working with but have not gotten them to mate yet. I purchased them as CB from a guy named Tom out of Washington off of KS. They turned out to be WC, loaded with mites, and were hard to get started. Took me over a month to get them to eat and then it took live wild pinks in the nest.

 

[dtknow]

I mean die because they cant keep finding amphiuma or sirens.

Yes sirens, and especially amphiuma are around but it takes some work to get them. But I guess what I'm saying is, I'm willing to bet that most people that buy S. occipitomaculata will end up killing them because they are not easy to keep.

And I suppose one could keep a frozen amphiuma and rub it on a mouse or fish but I wish them luck with that. Anyway ime that spp. does not do well in captivity.

So IYE their is a reason other than specialized diet that makes them poor captives? I've always been the whys and hows of keeping captives of picky species.