Cornsnake Info

[Dizzle]

My buddy just got a Ghost Corn snake and was asking me about them. I told him what I knew and he is reading some internet sources. Can anyone post a link to some reliable corn snake info or is there anyone on here who breeds or has bred them? Just want to help him out with some good reliable info on corn snakes, any help is appreciated.

 

[pyro fiend]

well what all do we need to cover iv kept them and bred them once before.. so what do we need to cover? husbandry? himidity? cage requirements?? theres so much i might be able to fill up the page with facts and random stuff so its better to know what you need to know... this is why most of us into reptiles discourage impulse buys. quote me or something and i can get you all the information you need

 

[Dizzle]

well what all do we need to cover iv kept them and bred them once before.. so what do we need to cover? husbandry? himidity? cage requirements?? theres so much i might be able to fill up the page with facts and random stuff so its better to know what you need to know... this is why most of us into reptiles discourage impulse buys. quote me or something and i can get you all the information you need

ok awesome, it wasn't an impulse really, he did his google research but now that he has it he came to me with questions because I've owned several snakes over the years but never a corn. Online you find conflicting info

and this forum is full of knowledgeable breeders with personal experience it seems. Sorry for the vague thread, I guess most importantly is humidity and temperature requirements. Also do u recommend a temperature gradient? I've read they really don't need to have one.



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[pyro fiend]

Oh a gradiant is a must. It lets the snake regulate its temp without you baking it lol leme jump on comp and ill edit with morevinfo (at stop sign lol)

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[Dizzle]

Ok, that's what i would have thought. I thought it pretty odd, I can't remember what site said that.

 

[pyro fiend]

Ok, that's what i would have thought. I thought it pretty odd, I can't remember what site said that.

well u replied so ill quote you instead lmao XD
yea its important otherwise you can make them uncomfortable, and technically couldbake the snake there is another i commented in. but for corns i use normal and humid hides. if its a hatchling id give it extra thick aspen imho so it can burrow. but i myself and a few other breeders i know reccomend around 30% average humidity. [no dial hydrometers!] should be pretty easy to maintain this time of the year with just a humid hide and using room humidity year round.

enclosure, again all depends on size. always wont it 2/3 the length of the snake. id say if its under 2ft tho a 10g will be good. the "breeder box" 's work well for small hatchlings too once its around a year or so old or 2ft+ long id move it to a 20long. depends on the snakes personality tho iv had corns lazier then balls [pythons not testies lmao] and was able to get away with a 10g till was around 3ft or so till i splurged lmao

what elese do we need?? btw if youv kept almost any colubrid, they are just like the rest XD if your a python or boa person.. its almost opposite lmao

 

[viper69]

What snake/s don't require a temp gradient??

 

[Dizzle]

What snake/s don't require a temp gradient??

man i don't know it was probably the dude that sold him the snake who said it, ive always provided a gradient for any reptile

 

[viper69]

Yea they all require it to my knowledge

 

[Dizzle]

well u replied so ill quote you instead lmao XD
yea its important otherwise you can make them uncomfortable, and technically couldbake the snake there is another i commented in. but for corns i use normal and humid hides. if its a hatchling id give it extra thick aspen imho so it can burrow. but i myself and a few other breeders i know reccomend around 30% average humidity. [no dial hydrometers!] should be pretty easy to maintain this time of the year with just a humid hide and using room humidity year round.

enclosure, again all depends on size. always wont it 2/3 the length of the snake. id say if its under 2ft tho a 10g will be good. the "breeder box" 's work well for small hatchlings too once its around a year or so old or 2ft+ long id move it to a 20long. depends on the snakes personality tho iv had corns lazier then balls [pythons not testies lmao] and was able to get away with a 10g till was around 3ft or so till i splurged lmao

what elese do we need?? btw if youv kept almost any colubrid, they are just like the rest XD if your a python or boa person.. its almost opposite lmao

Gotcha, yeah I mean I've kept a black rat snake (Pantherophis Obsoletus) and I was told the care is pretty much the same. Still, doesn't hurt to prod the forums when it's a different species we're talking about. Did you have difficulty breeding them? Any recommendations for breeding conditions? He expressed an interest in breeding it since it is a Ghost corn, which is very cool looking by the way.

 

[pyro fiend]

Gotcha, yeah I mean I've kept a black rat snake (Pantherophis Obsoletus) and I was told the care is pretty much the same. Still, doesn't hurt to prod the forums when it's a different species we're talking about. Did you have difficulty breeding them? Any recommendations for breeding conditions? He expressed an interest in breeding it since it is a Ghost corn, which is very cool looking by the way.

well they can be a pain imho because of brumation. but they are simple id tell him holdoff they need to be a certain age, and its a butt. how olds the snake/size

 

[Dizzle]

It's a little guy, not going to be breeding anytime soon I don't think. He's probably a little under a year or a year and maybe a foot to a foot and a half. Been a few days since I've seen the little fella.

 

[pyro fiend]

if it aint as thick as your pinky its probably a hatchling its got 3yrs or so to go lmao breeding may seem like fun. but remind him ghosts are a cool looking mutation. but you need to know genetics, find people to rehome them or give them to. corns are cheap unless he got it at a expo he might of got ripped off, only thing id recomend at this time outside of what i said is find a rat breeder locally to get pinkies from. live or frozen. they are little better once he hits a specific weight. and a digi scale would be a nice investment ;P

 

[pitbulllady]

Corn Snakes DO NOT require a temp gradient! They do not require any auxiliary heat unless you normally keep your house really on the cold side, like below 65 degrees F. In fact, NO native North American snake that is found in a temperate climate really needs auxiliary heat, and for a small snake, getting them TOO hot is asking for problems, and by "too hot" I mean at temps most people would keep a Ball Python. Small snakes can quickly overheat and become dehydrated. I've kept and bred native Colubrids, including Corns, for over 40 years, so I'm speaking from first-hand experience here. I have NEVER put a heat source on a Corn Snake. If you have ever gone field herping in South, where Corn Snakes are found naturally, your best luck in finding them will be at night, after the temperatures drop below 75 degrees. Ditto for Black Rats and other native Colubrids, with the exception of the Racers and Coachwhips, which are diurnal snakes that tend to be out in the morning after the sun comes up, but before temps become uncomfortable. When temps climb into the upper '80's and above, snakes will aestivate, going inactive again in a cool, protected spot. Corns are ridiculously easy to care for, and the simpler you keep things, the better.

pitbulllady

 

[Psychocircus91]

Corn Snakes DO NOT require a temp gradient! They do not require any auxiliary heat unless you normally keep your house really on the cold side, like below 65 degrees F. In fact, NO native North American snake that is found in a temperate climate really needs auxiliary heat, and for a small snake, getting them TOO hot is asking for problems, and by "too hot" I mean at temps most people would keep a Ball Python. Small snakes can quickly overheat and become dehydrated. I've kept and bred native Colubrids, including Corns, for over 40 years, so I'm speaking from first-hand experience here. I have NEVER put a heat source on a Corn Snake. If you have ever gone field herping in South, where Corn Snakes are found naturally, your best luck in finding them will be at night, after the temperatures drop below 75 degrees. Ditto for Black Rats and other native Colubrids, with the exception of the Racers and Coachwhips, which are diurnal snakes that tend to be out in the morning after the sun comes up, but before temps become uncomfortable. When temps climb into the upper '80's and above, snakes will aestivate, going inactive again in a cool, protected spot. Corns are ridiculously easy to care for, and the simpler you keep things, the better.

pitbulllady

Agree with this. I do not keep my corn with a real temperature gradient. The room drops all the way down to about 68 at night and goes up to 77 during the day during the winter and from 74-83 in the summer.
As mentioned, these are North American animals. Think about that variety of temperatures they deal with in nature.

 

[Dizzle]

Agree with this. I do not keep my corn with a real temperature gradient. The room drops all the way down to about 68 at night and goes up to 77 during the day during the winter and from 74-83 in the summer.
As mentioned, these are North American animals. Think about that variety of temperatures they deal with in nature.

Yeah, good points by both you and pitbulllady. That's kinda why i asked on here. By the way Psychocircus, Baltimore MD FTW heh

 

[Psychocircus91]

Yeah, good points by both you and pitbulllady. That's kinda why i asked on here. By the way Psychocircus, Baltimore MD FTW heh

Nice. did you go to Repticon a week and a half ago?

 

[Dizzle]

I sure did, why?



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[Psychocircus91]

I sure did, why?



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Just curious! I was there as well. I like arachnids RVA a lot (if they're still called that)

 

[Dizzle]

Just curious! I was there as well. I like arachnids RVA a lot (if they're still called that)

Awesome! Yeah me too, m&t exotics has some pretty sweet stuff. A cobalt blue they were selling at repticon I also saw at the MD Havre de Grace, all maryland reptile show.