Come on cat!

[web eviction]

So my cat spends all day hunting mice, moles, and birds and she is very very good the reason I know this is because she insists on bringing me all of them perfectly alive and unharmed ! She never kills them. At least every other night she walks in the house about two feet away from me and drops them and then sits and get some kinda sick satisfaction watching me scurry around trying to catch them! Two days ago was a bird which I opened the window and it flew away last week I lost two mice in my house and tonight I get a mole....

Atleast these guys are slow lol

---------- Post added 09-09-2012 at 07:35 PM ----------

Oh and that's not blood in the pic the kids were making blackberry mud potions in my bucket lol

 

[Risky]

LOL Darn cat! I used to date a girl whose cat would bring her bird presents. Not that that is unusual for cats to do, but this cat was an indoor cat and she lived on the second story of her apartment building.

 

[pitbulllady]

I know this is going to be considered a "flame" by the fans of free-roaming cats... well, it probably is. THIS thread is the reason why there are many people who absolutely hate cats. As with a passion. Cats are an invasive species that are NOT native to the US, and their detrimental effects on the environment and wildlife populations is well documented. People often assume that their beloved cats don't actually hurt the animals they attack, but due to the sharpness and needle-like shape of cat fangs, their bites often do not bleed much and are frequently unnoticeable under fur or feathers, despite penetrating deep into the victim's body. Animals that do not die right away will later succumb to infections, especially peritonitis. Unlike real wild predators, domestic cats that are owned have no interest in eating their prey. They kill just to be killing. If dog owners left their dogs to run loose, and allowed them to kill wildlife willy-nilly, I guarantee that cat owners would be the first people raising all sorts of stink and demanding that the dogs be penned up! I have a cat, and love him dearly, which is why he will NEVER set foot outside. He will never bring me injured and dying wildlife, nor will he wind up on some bigger predator's menu, or get hit by a car, or shot, or poisoned, or caught and tortured by some psychopath. It's time for cat owners to get in line with the other domestic animal owners and keep their pets confined, for their own safety and that of the animals they could encounter. No other animal owners let their pets run loose without the risk of being labeled irresponsible at the very least. Inside cats are perfectly happy and healthy; I had one live 23 years! For cat owners to knowingly let their cats run loose is no different than all those alleged Burmese Python owners turning their animals loose in the Everglades; wait, actually it IS. CATS can inhabit every known habitat, unlike the Burms.

pitbulllady

 

[longviewsteven]

I watched a 20/20 show last night that I had on my DVR. Cats are responsible for at least 33 species of birds becoming extinct. They put cameras on like 50 pet cats and half of them hunted and killed, lizards, snakes, birds etc. Cats kill an estimated 1.2 billion birds, globally every year.

I love cats and have had a few throughout the years but I never let them outside.

 

[Kazaam]

I know this is going to be considered a "flame" by the fans of free-roaming cats... well, it probably is. THIS thread is the reason why there are many people who absolutely hate cats. As with a passion. Cats are an invasive species that are NOT native to the US, and their detrimental effects on the environment and wildlife populations is well documented. People often assume that their beloved cats don't actually hurt the animals they attack, but due to the sharpness and needle-like shape of cat fangs, their bites often do not bleed much and are frequently unnoticeable under fur or feathers, despite penetrating deep into the victim's body. Animals that do not die right away will later succumb to infections, especially peritonitis. Unlike real wild predators, domestic cats that are owned have no interest in eating their prey. They kill just to be killing. If dog owners left their dogs to run loose, and allowed them to kill wildlife willy-nilly, I guarantee that cat owners would be the first people raising all sorts of stink and demanding that the dogs be penned up! I have a cat, and love him dearly, which is why he will NEVER set foot outside. He will never bring me injured and dying wildlife, nor will he wind up on some bigger predator's menu, or get hit by a car, or shot, or poisoned, or caught and tortured by some psychopath. It's time for cat owners to get in line with the other domestic animal owners and keep their pets confined, for their own safety and that of the animals they could encounter. No other animal owners let their pets run loose without the risk of being labeled irresponsible at the very least. Inside cats are perfectly happy and healthy; I had one live 23 years! For cat owners to knowingly let their cats run loose is no different than all those alleged Burmese Python owners turning their animals loose in the Everglades; wait, actually it IS. CATS can inhabit every known habitat, unlike the Burms.

pitbulllady

I fully support this post.

Outside cats also average around 2-5 years while inside cats average around 15.
Letting your cat outside while knowing it could be killed is cruel, letting it outside while you don't know that it could be killed is plain stupid.

If you really loved your cat you wouldn't let it go outside, they are perfectly healthy inside, they won't get bored unless you don't give them any attention in which case you're a lazy pet owner.

 

[web eviction]

Well it's the only cat I have.... She wondered up here 3 years ago and believe it or not I tried to run her off, the animal shelter is loaded with cats and would have just put her down so we had her spade and she's basically just a barn cat now. I am not and have never been a cat person and totally agree with much all you have said. But I'm sorry, untill her life runs it's coarse she will probably always be found running around my 5 acres out here in the sticks...

 

[spydrhunter1]

I know this is going to be considered a "flame" by the fans of free-roaming cats... well, it probably is. THIS thread is the reason why there are many people who absolutely hate cats. As with a passion. Cats are an invasive species that are NOT native to the US, and their detrimental effects on the environment and wildlife populations is well documented. People often assume that their beloved cats don't actually hurt the animals they attack, but due to the sharpness and needle-like shape of cat fangs, their bites often do not bleed much and are frequently unnoticeable under fur or feathers, despite penetrating deep into the victim's body. Animals that do not die right away will later succumb to infections, especially peritonitis. Unlike real wild predators, domestic cats that are owned have no interest in eating their prey. They kill just to be killing. If dog owners left their dogs to run loose, and allowed them to kill wildlife willy-nilly, I guarantee that cat owners would be the first people raising all sorts of stink and demanding that the dogs be penned up! I have a cat, and love him dearly, which is why he will NEVER set foot outside. He will never bring me injured and dying wildlife, nor will he wind up on some bigger predator's menu, or get hit by a car, or shot, or poisoned, or caught and tortured by some psychopath. It's time for cat owners to get in line with the other domestic animal owners and keep their pets confined, for their own safety and that of the animals they could encounter. No other animal owners let their pets run loose without the risk of being labeled irresponsible at the very least. Inside cats are perfectly happy and healthy; I had one live 23 years! For cat owners to knowingly let their cats run loose is no different than all those alleged Burmese Python owners turning their animals loose in the Everglades; wait, actually it IS. CATS can inhabit every known habitat, unlike the Burms.

pitbulllady

I totally agree with pitbulllady, both of our cats are strictly indoors. It peeves me to see our neighbors cat allowed to roam the neighbor killing the squirrels, rabbits and birds. One can only hope a coyote wanders through the neighborhood.

 

[Anonymity82]

It's a good thing you did Web. Spaying her and sparing her life. Can't expect people to take in every cat they find and not to mention they can be beneficial to humans if you have a barn and/or means to protect.

But yes, people should keep their cats inside and most cats will grow very comfortable with this even if they were outside cats.

 

[oldmanofthesea]

I don't hate cats that are kept indoors but I live in a town that is overun with feral cats. We have a group of do gooders that catch them have them neutered and then RELEASE them back into the neighborhood. Nothing makes me angrier to find cat poop buried in my garden when I am weeding or getting in my car and smelling cat piss where they backed up to my tires. I personally think they should be put down when captured to cut down on wildlife deaths. If it wasn't a felony to kill them in Delaware, I would declare war. Like it was said before, they are not native and do a lot of damage to local wildlife. Ron

 

[Shell]

My 2 cats (strictly indoor) are either incredibly bad hunters, or incredibly smart, we haven't figured it out yet. We live right on the lake, and while the house is pretty new, we do get a few mice a year inside. My cats never kill them, they always take the mouse to the bathtub and put it in, then sit on the edge and watch it until we come and catch it and release it outside. Whatever the reason they do this it's pretty humorous. They do however, regularly "kill" their toy mice. Stalk them, catch them and them bring them to us very proud of their kill. Toy mice and escaped crickets are about the only things that don't stand a chance with my girls lol.

Being a vet tech, and my clinic working with local shelters, I will never allow my cats outside. Not only are they horribly destructive to native animals, but there are just too many things that can happen to someone's pet when they let it roam free...I've seen it firsthand many times.

 

[pitbulllady]

I don't hate cats that are kept indoors but I live in a town that is overun with feral cats. We have a group of do gooders that catch them have them neutered and then RELEASE them back into the neighborhood. Nothing makes me angrier to find cat poop buried in my garden when I am weeding or getting in my car and smelling cat piss where they backed up to my tires. I personally think they should be put down when captured to cut down on wildlife deaths. If it wasn't a felony to kill them in Delaware, I would declare war. Like it was said before, they are not native and do a lot of damage to local wildlife. Ron

There have actually been several places in the US that have tried to enact bounties on feral cats, to try to curb their numbers and to discourage legitimate cat owners from allowing their animals to run loose, but due to the outcry against it, those proposals were soon shelved. I have mixed feelings about the Trap-Neuter-Release programs because they do not remove the problem, BUT, due to the huge numbers of feral and free-roaming cats in the US, when one cat in a feral population is removed, by whatever means, two more move in to replace it. The bad thing is, a large proportion of these "feral" cats actually DO have "owners"(and I use that term lightly here)somewhere, who feed them and provide some rudimentary care, so they are really just free-roaming cats. Unless you manage to trap one, it's impossible to tell the difference, and even a cat that acts very tame and sweet around familiar people can be extremely defensive-aggressive when trapped. At the root of the problem is the fact that most cat owners still think it's cruel to keep cats confined. They want to have their proverbial cake and eat it, too, so to speak. They want to think of their cats as domesticated pets but also want to think of them as wild animals that "need" to be "free", that "need" to indulge all their wild instincts, and consider it cruel to curb those instincts in any way. All other domesticated animal owners and even responsible "exotic" or non-domestic animal owners keep their animals confined, for the safety of the animals, for the safety of their neighbors and for the safety of the environment. Horses, dogs, cattle, hogs, goats, donkeys, llamas, etc. are kept properly confined and not allowed to run loose wherever they choose, doing whatever they choose. Why should cats be any different? Along with that attitude, many cat owners do not value their animals. They accept the risks inherent with letting cats run loose, and just shrug it off when the cat meets its untimely demise at the teeth or talons of a bigger predator, gets flattened by a car, or simply disappears, never to return, leaving its fate in question. They don't CARE, in other words, because the animals have no real value to them, unlike a true pet. Most won't even bother to check with the local animal shelters or animal control if their cat goes missing, which is why the majority of animals put to death in shelters across the nation are CATS, and why the adoption rate of cats from shelters is appallingly low, while that of dogs has risen. Many very friendly cats wind up in shelters because they are picked up roaming around, and no one bothers to check up on them. Their pathetic excuses of "owners" simply write them off...and get another cat. Imagine if I'd let my Catahoulas, Akitas and APBT's roam at will because I felt it was inhumane to curb their predatory instincts, or if my neighbor/cousin thought it was OK to allow his 300 head of Angus to do the same. Cat owners need to get off the fence-either you have cats as pets, or you don't. If you don't, then they are a feral, destructive invasive species that should be controlled by any means necessary, and if you DO have cats as genuine pets, then KEEP THEM IN YOUR HOUSE!! I love my cat dearly and I don't like to think of killing cats, but I hate seeing snakes, lizards, rabbits and songbirds mauled and dying a painful and needless death, too. I hate smelling tom cat pee/musk on my car or having to clean muddy paw prints off the windshield or stepping in kitty "land mines" in the driveway. There is just no real benefit to free-roaming cats, period...although some coyotes and Great Horned Owls might disagree.

pitbulllady

 

[The Snark]

First off, there is this concept, unwritten rule, called Responsible Pet Ownership. This is basically a 'in a perfect world' concept that some people adhere to very strongly. Those people, like PBL, are very vociferous about how to keep a pet.
Unfortunately, the people who don't adhere to Responsible Pet Ownership, the vast majority of pet owners, are the ones who are causing nearly all the problems. Those people don't read threads like this one, and if they do they don't take it to heart. Or they come up with a few dozen excuses why they can't. Like me. I just got 3 cats abandoned on our doorstep and I can't let them inside.
Essentially, voicing righteous indignation as on this thread is preaching to the choir.

Pet owners are generally unrealistic. They like the possession aspect, the control aspect, the cute, the comical, the heroic even, that their pets occasionally demonstrate. They hate and avoid responsibility unless it is very convenient. Fanatics, like most of the people on these forums don't count here.

So how do you get people to act responsibly with their pets? You can't. Enacting laws has never been effective at enforcing ethical conduct and never will. Ethical conduct comes from within.

So let us address this exact problem with the cat and her two kittens that are romping in our carport right now. A very typical scenario that serves to exemplify the problem. What are my options?
1. Call the animal care facility. Nope. They are overwhelmed. It may be that it was them that abandoned the cats in front of our house.
2. Make them indoor cats. Ignore the acute anaphylaxis my partner develops and buy lots of antihistamines.
3. Keep them in the carport and hope they won't wipe out too much native wildlife. (The usual scenario that leads to feral animals)
4. Abandon them on someone else's doorstep or at a temple. Hope somebody else will be more responsible than me. (Spay/neuter them first.)
5. Waste three bullets.
6. ???

 

[web eviction]

Well this thread was a mistake.... Unfortunely the cat can not be in my house all the time so I guess Im ok with being the bad guy because I chose to let her live I don't have many options if any one wants to adopt a barn cat hit me up.....

 

[The Snark]

Don't call it a mistake. It served as a reminder to many of us.

 

[bugmankeith]

I have 2 cats that go out. One used to catch birds but eat all of it except a few feathers, so the bird wasn't wasted but I don't like seeing any animal die and my cat contracted worms and had to be dewormed, now she is old and doesnt hunt anymore. My other cat never learned to hunt properly his mom died when he was very young, and the mom is who teaches the kittens how to properly hunt. He has no ambition to hunt and squirrels and birds chase him!

If your cats do go out make sure they are fixed, up to date on vaccines, and collar or microchip.

I don't listen when anyone says species don't belong in areas. People introduced all these species, and they are here to stay so get used to it you can't control the world!

 

[desertanimal]

No matter where you live, people most certainly did not introduce ALL these species.

 

[pitbulllady]

I have 2 cats that go out. One used to catch birds but eat all of it except a few feathers, so the bird wasn't wasted but I don't like seeing any animal die and my cat contracted worms and had to be dewormed, now she is old and doesnt hunt anymore. My other cat never learned to hunt properly his mom died when he was very young, and the mom is who teaches the kittens how to properly hunt. He has no ambition to hunt and squirrels and birds chase him!

If your cats do go out make sure they are fixed, up to date on vaccines, and collar or microchip.

I don't listen when anyone says species don't belong in areas. People introduced all these species, and they are here to stay so get used to it you can't control the world!

Yes, people introduced MOST of these invasive species. Now it's time for RESPONSIBLE people to own up to it and at the very least, not contribute to it! There is no excuse for letting cats run loose, microchip or no microchip. You think a coyote(a species which has expanded its range to 49 US states, with no help from us, not directly anyway)cares if your cat has a microchip? How about a semi tractor trailor truck, does it care if your cat has a collar? If you aren't going to be a responsible pet owner then don't be a pet owner, period! That "don't care" attitude just adds fuel to the growing anti-pet sentiment. The days when a pet owner could just do their own thing and not worry about the long-term repercussions are long gone. We are, as a group, under a microscope and under the gun, under intense scrutiny by groups waiting for one of us to screw up so they can say, "see! THIS is why pets should be outlawed!" Each and every one of us has to realize that our actions and choices regarding our animals DOES affect all the rest of us.

pitbulllady

 

[lizardminion]

Cut the cat crap.

What happened to the mole?

 

[Kazaam]

Cut the cat crap.

What happened to the mole?

I'd like to know this too.

 

[oldmanofthesea]

Maybe the cat ate it and choked to death--one less semi feral cat! Price to pay for running loose.