Colubrid ID help

[Philth]

Hello, I got these snakes awhile back, when I offered a friend help, who needed a place to store them for a short period of time. It dosent look like he's going to be able to care for them anymore so I will be keeping them. With the endless Colubrid color morphs, I'll never figure out what I have here. Im looking for the spiecies name , and what ever color morph(common name) its most commonly refered to as. Thanks in advance for any help.

Later, Tom

 

[Philth]

Pic 3 & 4 ...

 

[Philth]

Not sure if these 3 are all the same kingsnakes or what:?

 

[Taceas]

I'm no expert on Southwestern Kingsnakes or Milksnakes at all, so I would have no idea what is what. I deal with Cornsnakes, mostly. Although I do have a California King for a 'trash can'.

#3 looks like some sort of aberrant patterned California Kingsnake (Lampropeltis getula californiae)

But you might try looking for information/pictures here:

http://www.kingsnake.com/king/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsnake

 

[zinto]

Unfortunately, I can't help you ID these guys. I was just wondering if there was some sort of parasite on #2. The first red section behind its head has two lumps on it and there's a few other areas that look similar. Just wondering!
-Nick

 

[Ryan C.]

First one looks like a Pueblan Milk snake(Lampropeltis triangulum campbelli) and the Second looks like a Sinaloan Milk snake(Lampropeltis triangulum sinaloae).

Dont know about the others.

 

[Midnightrdr456]

Zinto i see what your pointing out, but they might be drops of water too lol, that look enough that they could be that.

 

[Philth]

[QUOTEI was just wondering if there was some sort of parasite on #2. The first red section behind its head has two lumps on it and there's a few other areas that look similar. Just wondering!
][/QUOTE]

Those are water droplets. I pulled this snake out of his water dish to take the pic. Thanks for the respond so far everyone.

 

[The Snark]

If memory serves.
#1 fits triangulum. The stripes are roughly the same in width.
#2 could be Zonata
#3 is getula californiae
No idea what 4 is.
The bottom 3 are variations of mexicana
Am I close?

I wish you luck. The only color I haven't seen in Lampro's is green.

 

[Beardo]

1-Pueblan Milksnake
2-Sinaloan Milksnake
3-California Kingsnake
4,5,6,7-Variable Kingsnakes

 

[bengerno]

Hi,

I agree with DavidBeard. The first is a color morph of campbell, we call this type "sockhead" here.
Nice addition, congrats! :clap:

 

[The Snark]

I was close! I'll go along with DavidBeard too.
I will also add I broke my golden rule of snakes here. I seriously doubt there is a more debated snake topic in the world than IDing lampro. Even the experts get in heated arguements. :wall:

 

[Paladin]

1. pueblan milk
2. nelson's milk http://swreptile.com/milk4.jpg
3. cal king
4-6. variable kingsnakes?

im not seeing the sinaloan milk.....the bands are just spaced to close together......

 

[pitbulllady]

I agree with the identities of all but number 4, which looks more like a Cornsnake hybrid to me. Look at the pattern behind the head, and inside the blotches; those definately seem similar to a Corn's pattern there. The three L. mexicanas don't have that. I know that there are a LOT of Corn x Lampropeltis hybrids out there in the market. I once "babysat" a Corn x Greyband King that looked EXTREMELY similar to the snake in pic #4, except it was an adult. The dark coloration on top of this little snake's head is similar to that on my Greyband's head.

pitbulllady

 

[Beardo]

I've seen plenty of pure Variable Kingsnakes that looked like #4....very few people crossbreed this species of King.

The 2nd Milksnake may be a Nelson's....I've always had a hard time telling them from Sinaloans unless they are side by side lol.

 

[scottyk]

#4 could be what's known as a Jungle Corn, which is a Corn x California King. They have been becoming more common over the last couple of years, and there are several color morphs available now.

 

[Galapoheros]

I think the last 4 are prob found in Mex. Basically subs of Lampropeltis alterna (Gray-Banded King). All those are nice looking snakes! Really clean looking. Thanks for the pics! Hmm, #4 kind of looks like the Eastern Milk. Not sure about any of that....just a gut feeling.

 

[Philth]

# 4

I had some take a look at # 4 and he siad it looks like a Durango Mt. Kingsnake. :?

 

[Philth]

Snake Rack

Does anybody now a good place to get one of those snake racks, with the sliding trays ?

 

[scottyk]

Does anybody now a good place to get one of those snake racks, with the sliding trays ?

I keep all of mine in tanks, and can't recommend a particular dealer, but the Kingsnake.com classifieds are loaded with ads for them. Look here:

http://market.kingsnake.com/index.php?cat=22