Cannot get pacman frog enclosure warmer than 75-76 degrees?

Adrinium

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I have a heat pad on one side and a ceramic heat emitter on top and the enclosure is still not hot enough. I even have aluminum and an old shirt covering most of the mesh on top. The house temp is usually around 65-68 degrees and I cannot change or do anything about this as I do not have control of the thermostat, unfortunately..He's eating fine just hasn't pooped, but I've only had him a week. He's about 2 inches from snout to end.
 

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No heat emitters as that's a way to dry out your pacman frog and encourage it to either stay in it's water dish or it will bury itself completely until you see nothing but a pot hole. The heat mat is good on the side, but I would not place it directly on the enclosure because pacman frogs can burn themselves if the side of enclosure is too hot. Place a piece of styrofoam in between the tank and heatpad if using it under or on the side of the enclosure. I have no idea what enclosure that frog is in, but if a heat pad cannot warm the enclosure alone then either you have a really large enclosure or a very low wattage heat pad. I know people how keep their frogs on heat tape and they do just fine. I can help, but I'm going to need more pictures and more details.
 

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No heat emitters as that's a way to dry out your pacman frog and encourage it to either stay in it's water dish or it will bury itself completely until you see nothing but a pot hole. The heat mat is good on the side, but I would not place it directly on the enclosure because pacman frogs can burn themselves if the side of enclosure is too hot. Place a piece of styrofoam in between the tank and heatpad if using it under or on the side of the enclosure. I have no idea what enclosure that frog is in, but if a heat pad cannot warm the enclosure alone then either you have a really large enclosure or a very low wattage heat pad. I know people how keep their frogs on heat tape and they do just fine. I can help, but I'm going to need more pictures and more details.
Alright here's a kinda not good pic but ill explain more
 

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Adrinium

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No heat emitters as that's a way to dry out your pacman frog and encourage it to either stay in it's water dish or it will bury itself completely until you see nothing but a pot hole. The heat mat is good on the side, but I would not place it directly on the enclosure because pacman frogs can burn themselves if the side of enclosure is too hot. Place a piece of styrofoam in between the tank and heatpad if using it under or on the side of the enclosure. I have no idea what enclosure that frog is in, but if a heat pad cannot warm the enclosure alone then either you have a really large enclosure or a very low wattage heat pad. I know people how keep their frogs on heat tape and they do just fine. I can help, but I'm going to need more pictures and more details.
So basically i have a smaller kritter keeper in the 10 gal because the frog was way smaller than I had expected when I bought it as the website didn't list the size. It's jus tan 8w heat matt on the 10 gal with a temperature probe that's taped to the side of the kritter keeper. Then there's the cermaic heat emitter 40w, and then I have an automatic mister that mists like 4 seconds twice a day
 

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Misting a frog is not really helpful most of the times as moist substrate is good enough for them as they can absorb all the water and moisture they need from the substrate. The big problem is the room that's cooled, which affects the atmosphere and temperatures. The heat pad should be placed on the side of the critter keeper with a styrofoam sheet or something in between the enclosure to avoid getting burned. I don't use heat pads for my frogs, but I know people who did. The better alternative that people use is heat tape or heat wires that I've seen, but I've never used them before so I can't really have a say in that matter. I personally don't use any heating besides a space heater, as it keeps the temperatures good enough for them.

The critter keeper also has no lid so you're pacman can literally jump out into the 10 gallon if it wants too.

I don't recommend any heat emitters as it tends to dry a pacman frogs skin and it encourages burrowing and staying in it's water dish. But in your case, you're probably going to have to stick with it for now. At the moment there isn't much that can be done since you cannot change room temps. If you had a space heater it'll probably be much more useful than the heat emitter.

I've never dealt with cold rooms before as I prefer to keep my room at 73F-75F at average, so it's not so much of a problem for me. For night temperatures, your frog can most likely survive the night at 68F, but you're going to need to find a way to constantly maintain warmth if you're planning to have your frog long term. I recommend using a space heater to increase room temps into a stable temperature or find a small room or cabinet to warm up to where it can suit the frogs temperatures.

They're really easy to keep once you get the temperatures up.
 

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Misting a frog is not really helpful most of the times as moist substrate is good enough for them as they can absorb all the water and moisture they need from the substrate. The big problem is the room that's cooled, which affects the atmosphere and temperatures. The heat pad should be placed on the side of the critter keeper with a styrofoam sheet or something in between the enclosure to avoid getting burned. I don't use heat pads for my frogs, but I know people who did. The better alternative that people use is heat tape or heat wires that I've seen, but I've never used them before so I can't really have a say in that matter. I personally don't use any heating besides a space heater, as it keeps the temperatures good enough for them.

The critter keeper also has no lid so you're pacman can literally jump out into the 10 gallon if it wants too.

I don't recommend any heat emitters as it tends to dry a pacman frogs skin and it encourages burrowing and staying in it's water dish. But in your case, you're probably going to have to stick with it for now. At the moment there isn't much that can be done since you cannot change room temps. If you had a space heater it'll probably be much more useful than the heat emitter.

I've never dealt with cold rooms before as I prefer to keep my room at 73F-75F at average, so it's not so much of a problem for me. For night temperatures, your frog can most likely survive the night at 68F, but you're going to need to find a way to constantly maintain warmth if you're planning to have your frog long term. I recommend using a space heater to increase room temps into a stable temperature or find a small room or cabinet to warm up to where it can suit the frogs temperatures.

They're really easy to keep once you get the temperatures up.
yeah, i wish I could change the temp to something that is actually room temp lmfao, I might actually get a space heater but my problem is i'm worried to leave it alone all day while i'm at work. Do you have any good suggestions? I probably will need to get one for winter anyways because my T's are in here too and while they're fine right now, my room gets especially cold in the winters :/
 

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yeah, i wish I could change the temp to something that is actually room temp lmfao, I might actually get a space heater but my problem is i'm worried to leave it alone all day while i'm at work. Do you have any good suggestions? I probably will need to get one for winter anyways because my T's are in here too and while they're fine right now, my room gets especially cold in the winters :/
Most space heaters will come with a thermostat setting range, which you can adjust the temps of the room you desire and the space heater will turn on and off accordingly. I don't know what brand or model space heater I have as my older brother gave his to me, but I can set a standard temperature I desire and it runs on and off to match that standard although it can be a little off sometimes. But it gets the job done while I'm away.

Even the the small $20 space heater has a somewhat adjustable temp bar, but they're not as reliable.
 

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A heat emitter is radiant heat. The radiation must strike something to warm the air. If you want a LOT of warm air, direct a radiant heather at an aluminum heat sink anodized black. Beware,;heat sinks can quickly absorb enough heat to burn you, your animal, or damage your enclosure. A fan on the heat sink, go rob a dead audio amplifier, will help a lot in heating the air. And chop up your critter. Nothing is perfect.
 
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Glass is useless at keeping in heat. You need to cover the sides and back with some insulation. I use foil backed insulation board. It's usually used in the building trade for cavity walls. That will make a huge difference.

I keep my baby/young horned frog in small tub inside a large heated exo terra. The heat mat covering the back wall is attached to a thermostat. I have zero issues getting 80f near the back where the mat is. Mid 70's right at the front away from the mat.
 

Adrinium

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Glass is useless at keeping in heat. You need to cover the sides and back with some insulation. I use foil backed insulation board. It's usually used in the building trade for cavity walls. That will make a huge difference.

I keep my baby/young horned frog in small tub inside a large heated exo terra. The heat mat covering the back wall is attached to a thermostat. I have zero issues getting 80f near the back where the mat is. Mid 70's right at the front away from the mat.
I think I'm going to try this, thank you
 

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Room temp is fine, my frog is between 72-78 degrees. I use a lamp too.
 
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