Can a Green Anole lizard swim?

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Can a green anole lizard swim if it cant touch the bottom of the tank?
 

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I’d reach out on a herp forum before risking its life due to your desires for this setup. More info can’t hurt.
 

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Would they be able to live with red clawed crabs? Because they would occupy different parts of the tqnk
 

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Paludariums are, in my opinion, animal killers. It's virtually impossible to balance the needs of all the inhabitants effectively over the long term.

Your red clawed crabs will think anything they can possibly catch will be food, like an unsuspecting anole. (The crabs will climb up wood/vines/etc.) Your anole will likewise think anything it can catch will be food, such as the crabs. (Your anole will forage on the ground level)

I truly wish the reptile companies stopped making glass boxes labelled as paludariums, and saying that you can actually create a dual purpose living environment.
 

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Paludariums are, in my opinion, animal killers. It's virtually impossible to balance the needs of all the inhabitants effectively over the long term.

Your red clawed crabs will think anything they can possibly catch will be food, like an unsuspecting anole. (The crabs will climb up wood/vines/etc.) Your anole will likewise think anything it can catch will be food, such as the crabs. (Your anole will forage on the ground level)

I truly wish the reptile companies stopped making glass boxes labelled as paludariums, and saying that you can actually create a dual purpose living environment.
There are lots of species that can thrive and cohabitate in a paludarium
 

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Thrive?

Proof?
Green anoles can live with long tailed lizards and rough green snakes, lots of people have had lots of success with multi species paludariums. You could potentially have success with green anoles, tree frogs with fish, some people also have scorpions and crabs

Thrive?

Proof?
Do some more research, i am sure you will find lots of people who have had success with multi species paludariums
 

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Green anoles can live with long tailed lizards and rough green snakes, lots of people have had lots of success with multi species paludariums. You could potentially have success with green anoles, tree frogs with fish, some people also have scorpions and crabs
And they've had these setups for the regular "natural" lifespan of all the inhabitants? I still don't see proof.

Edit: tree frogs and fish would make TERRIBLE cohabitants: most tree frogs are very messy and would completely foul the water section
 

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And they've had these setups for the regular "natural" lifespan of all the inhabitants? I still don't see proof.
Do some more research then

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And they've had these setups for the regular "natural" lifespan of all the inhabitants? I still don't see proof.

Edit: tree frogs and fish would make TERRIBLE cohabitants: most tree frogs are very messy and would completely foul the water section
Have you ever had a multi species paludarium?
 

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Not my problem to research.

If you want to condemn your animals to a life that's less ideal than you COULD MAKE IT. That's your choice
If you cant be bothered to even do your own research, then stop saying that my tank will fail and stop trying to say that i am purposely shortening my animals lives and stressing them out just for my enjoyment. You shouldn't be so stubborn and do your own research
 

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If you cant be bothered to even do your own research, then stop saying that my tank will fail and stop trying to say that i am purposely shortening my animals lives and stressing them out just for my enjoyment. You shouldn't be so stubborn and do your own research
It's not MY JOB to research your decisions for you. If you want to choose to ignore what people tell you, that's YOUR (AND YOUR FUTURE PETS') problem.

Have you done any research on this topic? A simple Google search bring up this page
https://www.paludariums.net/animals.php
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In summary
The best bet is to stick to one species per set-up. Ensure you research the conditions that each species enjoys and the behaviour they might display in nature and in captivity. Plan the tank conditions around that one animal, giving adequate attention to temperature, humidity and feeding
And another one:

Mixing species
When you mix species you are inviting problems, maybe even resulting in the death of the animals you are trying to keep. Perhaps from a toxin produced, from introduced pathogens, an inappropriate environment for one of the species or worst of all carnivorous behaviour.
 

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It's not MY JOB to research your decisions for you. If you want to choose to ignore what people tell you, that's YOUR (AND YOUR FUTURE PETS') problem.

Have you done any research on this topic? A simple Google search bring up this page
https://www.paludariums.net/animals.php
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And another one:
I am not asking you to research my dicisions for me, i am also not igoring you! I agree that you need to be cautious when mixing species, i am simply saying that alot of people have great success with mixing species in paludariums and just because some people fail you shouldnt asume that it can not be done. There are lots of factors that can prevent problems when mixing species, you just have to find a balance to have a successful setup.
 

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I am not asking you to research my dicisions for me, i am also not igoring you! I agree that you need to be cautious when mixing species, i am simply saying that alot of people have great success with mixing species in paludariums and just because some people fail you shouldnt asume that it can not be done. There are lots of factors that can prevent problems when mixing species, you just have to find a balance to have a successful setup.
Care to provide documented proof of:
1. Great success mixing species LONG TERM in a paludarium? (By long term I mean for what the animals' natural lifespan would be, when kept in a single species enclosure)
2. Factors that would give you the right balance in a paludarium?
 

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Care to provide documented proof of:
1. Great success mixing species LONG TERM in a paludarium? (By long term I mean for what the animals' natural lifespan would be, when kept in a single species enclosure)
2. Factors that would give you the right balance in a paludarium?
It is not my job to research proof for you!! 😂 factors like, hiding spaces, cover, multiple basking spots, amount of food (diet), ratio of males to females, there are lots of factors.
 
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