c lividum green femur, emerald, regular blue

Ceci

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Hi ! I have a c. lividum cobalt blue green femur male, can that guy be paired with a c lividum (blue) female ? i have been told also there are emeral femur. How can you know that if until adult you can not tell as they are blue.
 

Wolfram1

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No, they are obviously from a different import and probably from a different locality.

As a reminder "cobalt blue" is just the common name and should not be tagged onto the species name while "green femur" denotes it as seperate from the regular form.

As such to preserve the diversity within the hobby it should not be paired with anything other than "green femur" females.

edit: sadly it is often not possible to differentiate the different forms by looks alone, especially prior to reaching maturity and even then i have heard of some "green femur" specimens that had bluish hues to them rather than green ones.

We are essentially playing "Stille Post" a childrens game where you wisper a word to the next person and hope that at the end of the cycle when it returnes to you it has remained unchanged.

As such any person that thinks a half hearted or ill-informed renaming due to certain visual cues is a smart idea can do irreparable damage.

but thats just my 2 cents...
 
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Finikan

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Do not pair tarantulas that are not the same species or that you think look similar enough to pair.

Buy from a reputable source and if you have questions before buying, ask the seller.
 

Liquifin

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I wouldn't consider pairing them if they're different locales or something of that matter.

But has someone even proved out that green femur, emerald, or whatever are even genetic?I think they're a bit disingenuous by labeling green, emerald, or whatever on them. I would just label them as a "very specific" locale instead of a color to stop confusion or deceptive marketing. I think this entire C. lividus with the midnight blue/emerald/emerald carapace/emerald femur/green/green femur is a scam, but that's just me. I'm still waiting for people to prove out the green. It's a poor excuse to use one off-spring of an entire eggsac to show green when 99.99% of the sac is ordinary blue of a C. lividus. If that's the case then can we just call polygenic?
 

Wolfram1

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I wouldn't consider pairing them if they're different locales or something of that matter.

But has someone even proved out that green femur, emerald, or whatever are even genetic?I think they're a bit disingenuous by labeling green, emerald, or whatever on them. I would just label them as a "very specific" locale instead of a color to stop confusion or deceptive marketing. I think this entire C. lividus with the midnight blue/emerald/emerald carapace/emerald femur/green/green femur is a scam, but that's just me. I'm still waiting for people to prove out the green. It's a poor excuse to use one off-spring of an entire eggsac to show green when 99.99% of the sac is ordinary blue of a C. lividus. If that's the case then can we just call polygenic?
yea that would be preferable, sadly most of these initial imports are illegal and while in the best case the poachers are trying to protect the spiders by not mentioning the locality/collection-site in the worst case keeping the locale secet is just because of greed
in any case while the species names are accompanied by "descriptive names" to boost sales, at least they make it easier to keep the different imports seperate
 

Tarantuland

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I don't think green femur is a real thing. Possibly a locality, but I don't think this species is even imported WC very much anymore. I wouldn't pair them, but I'd question the person you got the "green femur" from and try to find out who labelled it as that. I think it's like red color form versicolor
 
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