C huahini transfer didn't exactly go as planned.

Moltar

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Ok, so i've been kind of putting off the rehousing of my little approx 4" C. huahini (still unsexed) for a few weeks now. I had the 1 gal pretzel jar setup ready on wednesday and finally made time on Saturday morning to do the move. As is sometimes the case, I decided to document the steps for posting later. I will use "she" for the purposes of this post although like I said, I dunno.

Ok, getting ready:
I have the spider in the old enclosure:


New enclosure ready to go:


Some of the assorted tools at the ready:



Ok, let's do it.
I pop the lid off (forget to take a pic) and remove the top layer of silk:


I dig and dig with my 12" tongs. Once I get through the bulk of the layered silk I just start slowly, carefully dumping out dirt until the spider comes out with it. (this pic was taken AFTER the ensuing fiasco, notice the spider not in the pic)


Out she (he?) comes. Once i've pushed the dirt away she walks lazily over to the side of my big tub I use for rehousing and stops there. I've never gotten a good pic of this T so I decided to go for it and reach for my camera. I power the camera up and look at the viewfinder just in time to see her quickly scrabbling over the edge of the tub with freedom in sight. From this point on there are no more action shots of the move...

What ensues starts out as a gentle prodding towards a cup and escalates to a running, jumping heart attack of a "run for the border" escape attempt. It was only a 3 or 4 minute ordeal but that was a loooooong 3-4 minutes. I chased her all over that bathroom before finally getting a cup over her.

So the first mistake I made was stopping to take a picture when I did not have the T completely under control and did not have a second pair of hands for backup.

The second mistake was using a piece of rag matboard to slide under the cup once i'd recaptured the T. Ragboard is basically cardboard with a percentage of cotton fiber woven in. It's very soft on one side and apparently a T can really dig its claws into it.

She wouldn't let go of the board. Several attempts to push her off with a brush resulted in her running anywhere except where I wanted her to. Up my arm, around the other side of the cup, down the outside of her new jar, you get the idea. Once she was sufficiently spooked (3rd escape/re-cup cycle) she wouldn't let go of the board no matter what I did. This girl was freaked.

I eventually got tired of all this noise and just did this.

That's her clinging to the underside of the board inside her new enclosure. The board is weighted with a rock on top.

She stayed there for about 8 hours without budging. It wasn't a situation I felt good leaving as is. The drop was far enough that I think she may never have climbed down of her own volition and instead stayed there for days and days. That's a long time to hold the lid on with a rock and i can't imagine it was good for the T either.

So I moved it to this, that's some old webbing in there to try and make her more comfortable.


The webbing seemed to help. This was the next morning:


So I dumped her into the new enclosure. By this morning (monday) I was observing normal spidery behavior.



I remember just recently advising a newer hobbyist that rehousing often does not go as planned. Funny how within only a few days I received a object lesson in how true this can be.


So, lessons learned:

1: When rehousing speed demons with no assistance be VERY CAREFUL when/if you decide to take pics. Taking your eyes off an unrestrained T for even a second can make the situation go south in a hurry.

2: Use something smooth for sliding under the cup. Personally I'll be using scrap cuts of sheet acrylic instead of scraps of ragboard from now on. They're great anyway because it makes it easier to take ventral photos.

3: As soon as you think you know a thing or two about dealing with feisty, speedy T's you may just be reminded of just how out of control things can get.



But yaknow what else I forgot to do? Get a decent ventral sexing pic. :wall:

It looks like a molt isn't far off so hopefully i'll get an intact exuvia soon, before he/she/it digs in too much.
 
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mouse

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sounds like you had fun.
guess i'm glad all i have right now is my b.smithi and my attack rosie - ah, i ment rosehair.
when i had more T's i did hate rehousing my obt and my p.cambridgei .
 

Neuroticax

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Well at least you can't say that you were bored. :)

Rehousing is always fun, especially with stubborn or spooked T's. We have to rehouse a couple of my boyfriends spiders within the next couple of months. Not looking forward to it, especially since I'm the one who washes the containers before the rehouse.
 

rochin

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wow!!! i am sure those 3-4 minutes felt like 3-4 hours!!!! very good thread!!
 

c'est ma

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MUCH more fun to read about than experience! Nice story/photo log. Congrats on the happy ending. :)
 

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Funny story and quite a coincidence. Hope Im not high-jacking your post, just wanna share a similar story. :) Rehoused all my old world arboreals last week and everything went smoothly till...my C.huahini (About the same size as yours)! Got it out on some substrate for a photo shoot and as i tried to focus it dissapeared out of site. Charged me, :) and ran up my arm. As it made a beeline for my sleeve i put my hand in the way to stop it from going up my sleeve but instead of blocking it, I put my hand on its body.
This wasn't taken lightly, as it proceeded to bite me on the inside joint of my elbow and run and sit on my back out of reach.
Slowly took my shirt off and slowly put it back in its new container after a few more threat displays. :)
Had a burning arm for the rest of the day. :)

Was also alone so didn't have any backup. Seems like we made the same mistakes. :)
 

Moltar

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Funny story and quite a coincidence. Hope Im not high-jacking your post, just wanna share a similar story. :) Rehoused all my old world arboreals last week and everything went smoothly till...my C.huahini (About the same size as yours)! Got it out on some substrate for a photo shoot and as i tried to focus it dissapeared out of site. Charged me, :) and ran up my arm. As it made a beeline for my sleeve i put my hand in the way to stop it from going up my sleeve but instead of blocking it, I put my hand on its body.
This wasn't taken lightly, as it proceeded to bite me on the inside joint of my elbow and run and sit on my back out of reach.
Slowly took my shirt off and slowly put it back in its new container after a few more threat displays. :)
Had a burning arm for the rest of the day. :)

Was also alone so didn't have any backup. Seems like we made the same mistakes. :)
Haha! I guess that makes us brothers in arms or something. Sorry you got tagged, I'm kind of surprised I didn't to be honest. Did you post a bite report?

Come to think of it, my huahini has never really acted defensively. It just runs and hides (or runs and runs some more if it can't hide). I bet these lil suckers are quite the handful when they max out at what, 8"-9"?
 

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Great story and pics! I love reading about these adventures everyone has with rehousing some species - even if its stressful to deal with its fun to read about later!

Good job getting her caught and transferred finally though. Obviously not as easy a job as you might have hoped for.
 

c'est ma

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Funny story and quite a coincidence. Hope Im not high-jacking your post, just wanna share a similar story. :) Rehoused all my old world arboreals last week and everything went smoothly till...my C.huahini (About the same size as yours)! Got it out on some substrate for a photo shoot and as i tried to focus it dissapeared out of site. Charged me, :) and ran up my arm. As it made a beeline for my sleeve i put my hand in the way to stop it from going up my sleeve but instead of blocking it, I put my hand on its body.
This wasn't taken lightly, as it proceeded to bite me on the inside joint of my elbow and run and sit on my back out of reach.
Slowly took my shirt off and slowly put it back in its new container after a few more threat displays. :)
Had a burning arm for the rest of the day. :)

Was also alone so didn't have any backup. Seems like we made the same mistakes. :)
This raises the question--are there better & worse clothes to wear whilst transferring T's? Seems to me that a buttoning shirt might be better than something you have to pull off over your head!

--Diane
 

Ceratogyrus

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Been bitten a few times before so didn't really note the time of the bite and exactly how long the symptoms lasted. :)
 
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