breeding only when in season?

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I have e. campestratus and g. rosea I'm interested in breeding. Are T's in general only likely to breed in the warmer mos. like reptiles after brumating, or are ppl having success with pairing them up now? This occured to me after two unsuccessful attempts with e. camp. when she showed little interest.
 

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You can breed tarantulas any time of the year.
IF you take the proper conditioning steps both before and after a mating then yes this is true. There are still target temperatures you want to reach so winter makes it harder for some people to hit those temps.

But if you have something like a US native Aphonopelma, or better yet an Aphonopelma that is local to you, you would want to try your best to follow the season cycle to up your odds of success.
 

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Which is about now here in California.

--C
Yup, late October, early November. If anyone has any CA Aphonopelma sp. I'd suggest breeding now.

Breeding all year round can be done as long as you replicate the Ts natural conditions of it's seasons. Most people stick with this because they don't and can't wait till the actual time is right.
 

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From what I've learned/what I'm trying to follow is to mate around this time of the year in order to give your gravid females a couple months of cooling and when it begins to warm up, around Jan-March, hopefully they will start laying sacs. I only do this because it is literally impossible to keep the right temperature for my gravid females this time of year so I try and stay as close along the lines portraying their habitat temps, not only this time of the year, but how it would be year round. Same goes with humidity.
 

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with G. rosea i'd suggest a spring-time mating, to shoot for summer eggsacs (cool-down period given to the female BEFORE she mates). afaik (from talking to people who live there), that's when males are typically out and about over in Chile. However, it happens all the time (in captivity) that autumn matings occur, with spring hatchouts.... hence people will tell you that it can take anywhere from 2-10 months for an eggsac to be produced.

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Hello!

IF you take the proper conditioning steps both before and after a mating then yes this is true. There are still target temperatures you want to reach so winter makes it harder for some people to hit those temps.
Breeding all year round can be done as long as you replicate the Ts natural conditions of it's seasons. Most people stick with this because they don't and can't wait till the actual time is right.
This is just partly true, not for every species.
You can manage any artificial condition of seasonal changes but if it's not a right part of the actual year season, You would fail.
You can successfully replicate the conditoins for most of the asiatic t's and african's, as well as for some american's like Nhandu, Acanthoscurria or Chromatopelma, but You whould be not successful in a case with most Brachypelma or Theraphosa or Pamphobeteus or Xenesthis and some other...
 

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So would it be safe to mate any species say from when winter is just about over to the beginning of Spring?? When is the most successful time to mate when simulating winter temps for your T's?
 

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Hi!

As Paul Novak told above - right now is the best time to mate Your spiders.
 

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This is just partly true, not for every species.
You can manage any artificial condition of seasonal changes but if it's not a right part of the actual year season, You would fail.
You whould be not successful in a case with most Brachypelma


Not really. I have done many off season breedings with Brachys and produced very well. :cool:
 

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Not really. I have done many off season breedings with Brachys and produced very well. :cool:
I do bred B. albopilosum and B. "vagans" sevral times out off the "season" but never was successful with the same of any of red Brachy's.
So, what would be the key for producing em off season? Describe please in more details as possible.
Thanks in further!
 

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Mikhail, could you describe some of the important climatic cues needed to stimulate females of some of the more difficult to breed NW topical species like Theraphosa, Pamphobeteus, and Xenesthis. Is it that you must simulate a wet season after mating? And what about P. subfusca? Why is it that many claim they require cooling off after mating. I know they live in high elevations at cooler temps., but still they are in the tropics and I would assume their environmental temperatures remained fairly constant despite seasonal change.
 

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Hello!

Unfortunately, I'm not that man, who successfully bred any of the Xenesthis or Theraphosa or Pamphobeteus of any species - all representative of these genera are very rare here and rather expensive. I only have 1 subadult male T. blondi, Adult female P. sp. platyomma and juvenils of P. fortis and P. nigricolor. That's all. Some people has here also several specimens of those species, but still no mates are availale.
So, I definately have my own conclusions based mostly on the data on natural habitat, experience of the breeders (successful or not) and some other thoughts on more experineced fellows about how to provide the right conditions... but as it is not proven I would not share it here.
As for P. subfusca, yes, I believe You should maintain it on the cooler side for stimulating the oviposition like the same You should provide with the Haplopelma spp. after some time after mating, but either case - I'm not expert on Poecilotheria at all.
All that I can it is really possible to provide a right condition for the "hard-bred" tarantulas like I made and had describe for Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens, that You can find on my site.
One key feature to bred any species - is the proper care of spiderlings to maintain a good further parents for the healthy slings, but many and many people still provide the fast-growing conditions - usually too high temperatures and too much feeding are the main mistakes.
For example, if You rais Your Brachypelma vagans under 29-30 Celsigrades what conditions You should stimulate to bred her? Nothing...
 

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Hello!
So, I definately have my own conclusions based mostly on the data on natural habitat, experience of the breeders (successful or not) and some other thoughts on more experineced fellows about how to provide the right conditions... but as it is not proven I would not share it here...
Oh come on, let's hear your theories out. I know I'm not the only one who would enjoy hearing your insight into the matter, proven or not.
 
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