brachypelma kahlenbergi with a serious attitude problem

Paul1126

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My 7cm Brachypelma Kahlenbergi has a serious attitude problem.

Can't change the water dish without him bolting out the hide to stop me. Very curious and fearless T, takes no nonsense.

I tried again this morning to clean the water dish, again bolted out the hide to stop me, I tried to poke him away with a paintbrush and it completely had the opposite effect, he bolted straight towards to the brush striking it.

Anyone else got a brachy with a serious attitude problem?

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My 7cm Brachypelma Kahlenbergi has a serious attitude problem.

Can't change the water dish without him bolting out the hide to stop me. Very curious and fearless T, takes no nonsense.

I tried again this morning to clean the water dish, again bolted out the hide to stop me, I tried to poke him away with a paintbrush and it completely had the opposite effect, he bolted straight towards to the brush striking it.

Anyone else got a brachy with a serious attitude problem?

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I have a couple of Brachypelma with attitude they are kahlenbergi and schroederi.

I've gotta ask Paul did you receive this specimen from a reputable breeder/dealer? The reason i ask is it doesn't look like B kahlenbergi to me as they have red setae hairs covering their abdomen and a brown carapace. I suspect it may be B schroederi as they tend to be almost completely black. It could just be the fact I'm looking on my phone
 

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I've gotta ask Paul did you receive this specimen from a reputable breeder/dealer? The reason i ask is it doesn't look like B kahlenbergi to me as they have red setae hairs covering their abdomen and a brown carapace. I suspect it may be B schroederi as they tend to be almost completely black. It could just be the fact I'm looking on my phone
I'm so glad you brought this up as I have been questioning this lately. I've just watched all my feeding clips featuring this guy and he doesn't show the red setae at all, I got a Brachypelma sabulosum at the same time and I may have gotten them mixed up at some point. (They're in the exact same type of enclosure with similar setups) but even the Sabulosum show red setae with black carapace.
I got these spiders from the spider shop uk.
View media item 43468The picture is of my sabulosum, maybe I did mix them up I'm not sure anymore I'm very confused.
 

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I don't think any tarantulas have attitude problems. The OP's sounds like a feeding response, especially with the abdomen being small. Post molt they're driven to regain weight fast or risk perishing. If it was a defensive reaction it would either kick hairs or stand with it's fangs extended. Feed your spider more.

No tarantula is aggressive, but some are definitely more defensive than others. It's their territory you're invading and the assumption is that you're up to no good. Almost all are solitary animals. They're not going to give humans a warm welcome, regardless of your intentions. There's no way they're able to comprehend what you're doing while feeding/watering and cage maintenance. Keep disruptions to a minimum so that they can live like their instinct tells them to.
 

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I don't think any tarantulas have attitude problems. The OP's sounds like a feeding response, especially with the abdomen being small. Post molt they're driven to regain weight fast or risk perishing. If it was a defensive reaction it would either kick hairs or stand with it's fangs extended. Feed your spider more
Thank you for the concern, picture was taken when I first got him. He's a lot plumper now.
I never said it was aggressive behaviour, he has also just recently started defending the water dish, (This was after I gave him two crickets in one day.)

FYI: all my tarantulas are plump and well fed, Unless I just got them or freshly molted.
 

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Thank you for the concern, picture was taken when I first got him. He's a lot plumper now.
I never said it was aggressive behaviour, he has also just recently started defending the water dish, (This was after I gave him two crickets in one day.)

FYI: all my tarantulas are plump and well fed, Unless I just got them or freshly molted.

They don't defend water bowls, certainly not a behavior they would develop in the wild. That's also a feeding response, triggered by the movement.
 

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They don't defend water bowls, certainly not a behavior they would develop in the wild. That's also a feeding response, triggered by the movement
Thanks for the info.
No doubt it's a feeding response, of course it's not actually defending the water bowl, that's just what it seems like.

He is a fantastic T with a really good feeding response (which is why i named him Carnifex.) wish I could show you all the videos I have.
 

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@Paul1126 this is my juvenile kahlenbergi and my schroederi just for reference. They are around half the size of yours but you can clearly see the the bright red. From what ive seen sabulosum tend to be a little darker than kahlenbergi IMG_20171002_093050351.jpg IMG_20171002_110358983.jpg
 

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@Paul1126 this is my juvenile kahlenbergi and my schroederi just for reference. They are around half the size of yours but you can clearly see the the bright red. From what ive seen sabulosum tend to be a little darker than kahlenbergi View attachment 253691 View attachment 253692
I'm sure both of mine have the red setae you just can't see them in the pictures, but nowhere near as bright as yours.

Picture is attached of the Sabulosum (which I'm certain is correct)
 

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I'm sure both of mine have the red setae you just can't see them in the pictures, but nowhere near as bright as yours.

Picture is attached of the Sabulosum (which I'm certain is correct)
Iding tarantulas from pictures can be notoriously difficult but if i was a betting man my money would be on sabulosum for this picture
 

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Iding tarantulas from pictures can be notoriously difficult but if i was a betting man my money would be on sabulosum for this picture
That's true, I'm sure I haven't mixed them up and this looks like a sabulosum. I'm not sure about the kahlenbergi now I'll have to investigate him tonight.

Not that it matters now if I was sold the wrong T since I would never get rid of him now anyway. But still I should complain if this isn't a kahlenbergi.
 

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That's true, I'm sure I haven't mixed them up and this looks like a sabulosum. I'm not sure about the kahlenbergi now I'll have to investigate him tonight.

Not that it matters now if I was sold the wrong T since I would never get rid of him now anyway. But still I should complain if this isn't a kahlenbergi.

Yes, if you paid a higher price for that species and didn't get it.
 

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That's true, I'm sure I haven't mixed them up and this looks like a sabulosum. I'm not sure about the kahlenbergi now I'll have to investigate him tonight.

Not that it matters now if I was sold the wrong T since I would never get rid of him now anyway. But still I should complain if this isn't a kahlenbergi.
I agree you should mention it to tss and if you look at previous orders on your account it'll show you the exact date the order was placed so at least there is evidence
 

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Yes, if you paid a higher price for that species and didn't get it.
I'm sure on price over here for juvenile/sub adult of these species but as slings there little to no difference as sabulosum seems to be the rarer of the 2 on these shores. You are right of course if paul did indeed pay a higher price
 

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Kahlenbergi was £20
Sabulosum was £16

This order was made 16th August
 

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I know this is an older thread, and you are probably more comfortable with your tarantula's behavior/care reqs, etc...
I just wanted to throw in my two cents worth (as we say across the pond.)
I've got a 2" kahlenbergi. Raised it from a 1/4" sling.
I've also got several OWs, and not a single one of them give me trouble like some of my NW'S do.
But my kahlenbergi is chill. Also due for a rehousing soon. 😁
 

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I loved this T he died last week as a mature male.
He lived a lot longer than I thought he was a mature male for nearly 2 years.
 

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My 7cm Brachypelma Kahlenbergi has a serious attitude problem.

Can't change the water dish without him bolting out the hide to stop me. Very curious and fearless T, takes no nonsense.

I tried again this morning to clean the water dish, again bolted out the hide to stop me, I tried to poke him away with a paintbrush and it completely had the opposite effect, he bolted straight towards to the brush striking it.

Anyone else got a brachy with a serious attitude problem?

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It's not an attitude problem. Your T senses the light vibration of the water being poured into the water dish.

For a tarantula this could be potential prey. I have a couple of T's that attack the water dish when I fill it. Total normal behavior.
 

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Sorry he passed away . Sounds like he was a real charactor . I have a sabulosum that's a real sleeper spider .A Great eater and was a good burrower but had grown out of that now .
 
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