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I'd rather not dwell on negativity here. Instead I'd love to hear about the extraordinary measures taken to assure this chaps health and contentment.
 

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Does he have any breathing issues? He's a handsome chap but I hate what they've done to bulldogs.
No issues at all except for quite a loud snore. Bulldogs are the biggest, most gentle giants. They love being couch potatoes. They love absolutely everybody they meet. They're amazing with kids. They're super-loyal. They have paws as big as a bears. And best of all, there's not a bad bone in their body. You'll always get haters, but you tend to find they've never even seen one in real life, never mind known one. Every single person I've met when out with big W absolutely adores him. He's like a celebrity in my town.
 

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I'd rather not dwell on negativity here. Instead I'd love to hear about the extraordinary measures taken to assure this chaps health and contentment.
He needs his face folds cleaned regularly. And can't bear to be away from my side otherwise he gets quite depressed. He's rather heavy for a lap dog, but I put up with it. He's fit as a flea and never been to the vet apart for his jabs and the odd health check. Oh, but you do need to keep a "slobber rag" handy. ;)
 

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No issues at all except for quite a loud snore. Bulldogs are the biggest, most gentle giants. They love being couch potatoes. They love absolutely everybody they meet. They're amazing with kids. They're super-loyal. They have paws as big as a bears. And best of all, there's not a bad bone in their body. You'll always get haters, but you tend to find they've never even seen one in real life, never mind known one. Every single person I've met when out with big W absolutely adores him. He's like a celebrity in my town.
He sounds absolutely bloody fantastic. I have a Bullmastiff so know all about slobber rags.
 

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He sounds absolutely bloody fantastic. I have a Bullmastiff so know all about slobber rags.
Nice one - I love Mastiffs, especially the Dogue de Bordeaux - beautiful colour. I have indoor clothes (slobbery) and outdoor clothes (less slobbery). :embarrassed:
 

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I fell head over heels in love with a young female monster a little while ago. She was, sadly, a show piece for rich idiots to show off to other rich idiots. The buyer-owner of the animal never took into account this is an incredibly powerful animal. After a couple of socialite incidents where the dog knocked over everything in sight, objects and people, she was confined to a small pen.

She was the mostly friendly and lovable animal I have ever encountered. But with this breed that simply means trouble. Like dealing with a yearling filly or colt, you are going to take a bruising/beating just by getting close and being friendly. Without a close second, these dogs need more TLC and social contact than any other breed. If given that then the hazards become minimized to your coffee table taking the occasional stroll around the house.

(As my vet here mentioned, 'think spending at least and hour or two every week attending to the grooming the animal is unable to do for itself'.)
 

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For those who haven't had personal contact with these giant glops, they are entirely incapable of grooming themselves. They can't even scratch an itch. So if you do the grooming for them they more or less view you as the sunlight in their lives. A double edged sword there as they often greet you with enthusiasm. Think a 100 to 150 lb torpedo barreling at your lower legs. Small children get flattened as a matter of course.
 

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She was the mostly friendly and lovable animal I have ever encountered. But with this breed that simply means trouble. Like dealing with a yearling filly or colt, you are going to take a bruising/beating just by getting close and being friendly.
Hi there. Are we talking about the same breed here - English Bulldogs? I foster and rescue EBs and am a member of several national organisations that hold Bulldog walks, where up to 100 EBs attend at a time. I know just about every decent EB breeder there is, and whilst I don't dispute you might have had some behavioural problems with one, they are easily fixed with a bit of training and your generalisations about "the breed" run completely at odds with all my experiences. Big W, for example, was kept in a small cage for the first 10 months of his life before I rescued him. It only took a few weeks of training before he was literally the perfect dog.
 

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For those who haven't had personal contact with these giant glops, they are entirely incapable of grooming themselves. They can't even scratch an itch. So if you do the grooming for them they more or less view you as the sunlight in their lives. A double edged sword there as they often greet you with enthusiasm. Think a 100 to 150 lb torpedo barreling at your lower legs. Small children get flattened as a matter of course.
Sorry, but this is utter rubbish. My nieces and nephews ride big W like a horse. You need to train a dog to respect children and to not jump up at people. It's easy to do, just takes a little effort. Bad dogs generally have bad owners.
 

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Apologies. I neglected to mention I was speaking of the puppy stages. Of course they can be trained. But they are still bubble butts that can and do rearrange the furniture accidentally.

What would be beneficial is you going into the grooming and assuring their contentment. A dog that can't scratch itself needs extra attention.
 

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"Children riding on the back of their family dog is very dangerous for the animal, and the child, even if you have one of the giant breeds as your family pet. The muscles in a dog's back are not strong enough and not designed to carry a passenger and could be damaged by this activity. We worry about muscle sprain and strain, vertebral sub luxation, and disc-related problems. Lesser sprains and strains may need to be treated with pain medications or physical therapy while serious spinal injuries could lead to paralysis which may or may not be able to be surgically repaired."
Dr. Sarah Bassman of Cornell University's College of Veterinary Medicine
 

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Bulldogs are the biggest, most gentle giants.
Maybe for you xD DEFINITELY not in my case lol! Bulldogs have so far been the main reason why I dislike dogs. It seems that I was attacked by one as a small child too. And a Labrador... Dogs hate me it seems :D But I can see why people love dogs as I have a poodle haha.
 

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"Children riding on the back of their family dog is very dangerous for the animal, and the child, even if you have one of the giant breeds as your family pet. The muscles in a dog's back are not strong enough and not designed to carry a passenger and could be damaged by this activity. We worry about muscle sprain and strain, vertebral sub luxation, and disc-related problems. Lesser sprains and strains may need to be treated with pain medications or physical therapy while serious spinal injuries could lead to paralysis which may or may not be able to be surgically repaired."
Dr. Sarah Bassman of Cornell University's College of Veterinary Medicine
Well, coming from a guy who doesn't know how to train a young dog to respect children and let's them get bowled over like skittles, your little copy and paste effort at a retort there doesn't cut much mustard. 0/10 for effort.
 

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Maybe for you xD DEFINITELY not in my case lol! Bulldogs have so far been the main reason why I dislike dogs. It seems that I was attacked by one as a small child too. And a Labrador... Dogs hate me it seems :D But I can see why people love dogs as I have a poodle haha.
Does your poodle hate you too?
 

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Does your poodle hate you too?
Yes actually. He makes sure that drive his claws into my crotch whenever he can. :) Dogs are so fun that I can just like fly away from them forever and I know they'd be fine without me and me without them :D
 

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OP, you are pushing the limit. Restrain from personal attacks. People here are generally acutely concerned with an animals well being. This breed of dog has been victimized by the breeding and has serious issues from word go. It's an unnatural animal that has a lot of foibles and innate problems. It WILL bump into things and people and with that weight and mechanical advantage always poses something of a problem.

I suppose if you go for the slave and master training approach it can be fully controlled and act the sedate piece of furniture. That makes me nauseous to even contemplate.

@Stugy Have you seen Carlin's spiel on 'crotch hounds'? :)
 

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OP, you are pushing the limit. Restrain from personal attacks. People here are generally acutely concerned with an animals well being. This breed of dog has been victimized by the breeding and has serious issues from word go. It's an unnatural animal that has a lot of foibles and innate problems. It WILL bump into things and people and with that weight and mechanical advantage always poses something of a problem.

I suppose if you go for the slave and master training approach it can be fully controlled and act the sedate piece of furniture. That makes me nauseous to even contemplate.
I'm merely trying to educate you. Stop taking it so personally. For example:

"In order to become a good family pet, it is important that you teach your puppy to understand right from wrong. Everyone in the household should agree to a set of rules, which everyone must follow consistently. You should discourage puppy actions such as jumping up, mouthing, play biting, stealing, chewing, barking, pawing, begging or mounting, which may be endearing when they are puppies, but will make them antisocial as adult dogs." [The Kennel Club]

As I said, bad owners make for bad dogs. I've rescued a bunch of EBs and never had them barrel children over or crash around my house. I would be perfectly happy to give you some advice on dog training, despite your terrible attitude.
 
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