Bark Scorpion Indentification Needed

AndroctonusMan

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Hello everyone, a while back I purchased an adult C. sculpturatus, and I am starting to think it could be something else. From what I've seen on pictures of C. sculpturatus, they seem to have a vibrant yellowish color and no dark stripes down the abdomen. My scorpion has two dark stripes down his abdomen. I am thinking that this little guy could be C. vittatus but I am not too sure.
 

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photo is really small. Wish I could help, are the dark stripes kind of wide with a lighter, thin cinnamon stripe between them?

C. sculpturatus are typically gold-ish bronze / amber /honey with a darker backs, and lighter segment lines
 
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photo is really small. Wish I could help, are the dark stripes kind of wide with a lighter, thin cinnamon stripe between them?

C. sculpturatus are typically gold-ish bronze / amber /honey with a darker backs, and lighter segment lines
Hmm, I'm not quite sure why the picture appears so small. I think this one should be better. From what I see there is a cinnamon stripe in the middle with similar sized black lines on both sides. The scorp looks similar to C. vittatus but with a more dull black and a complete lack of a black triangle on the head.
 

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Thanks, that photo was much better.

there are some AZ Barks that look similar, but I'm leaning more to the striped (vittatus)

this is supposedly a pic of an AZ, looks similar to yours. https://www.greenhomepest.com/blog/post/symptoms-of-an-arizona-bark-scorpion-sting
Yeah, I've seen pictures of C. sculpturatus that look similar and then I've seen pictures of C. vittatus that look similar. I have heard that C. sculpturatus can look different depending on where it was collected from. I'm not entirely sure what state this one came from, but it could just look a bit different than most.
 

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we had a bunch @ the show this weekend, and yes we had a variety of appearances, and I talked to the expert and he said they vary from place to place and some get the striping
 

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we had a bunch @ the show this weekend, and yes we had a variety of appearances, and I talked to the expert and he said they vary from place to place and some get the striping
Yeah that's what I thought. Quite interesting that they can have such a variety of looks despite them being the same species. Thanks for letting me know.
 

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We had 2 tubs with multiples in each and there was definite variation, some more yellow, some more orange...
 

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From what I've seen on pictures of C. sculpturatus, they seem to have a vibrant yellowish color and no dark stripes down the abdomen.
Let me known when methods to identify animals go by variations in coloration. How about using the established method used to ID Sculpturatus, the sculpted appearance of the dorsal plates. Do a comparison between your specimen and several identified species that do and don't don't have that trait - up close and personal. Much better than looking at pictures.
 

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Let me known when methods to identify animals go by variations in coloration. How about using the established method used to ID Sculpturatus, the sculpted appearance of the dorsal plates. Do a comparison between your specimen and several identified species that do and don't don't have that trait - up close and personal. Much better than looking at pictures.
Well unfortunately I don't live in Arizona so I can't go outside my house and pick a Arizona Bark Scorpion up and compare it to the one I have now, that's why I bought this one and didn't catch it. I am not sure how I can compare my specimen to another specimen without the help of online pictures. From looking at online pictures, I see that some of C. sculpturatus do have stripes.
 

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From looking at online pictures, I see that some of C. sculpturatus do have stripes.
Then you are stuck with the scientific scapegoat, 'presumed'. A lovely transitive verb that identifies something yet is noncommital. :geek: Physicians get to use that word and 'reminescent'.
 

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That is exactly what mine looks like. It's amazing that there can be so much variation in one species.
The head markings are a great identifier for bark scorpions, kinda like striped barks typically always have the triangle even if the pattern is iffy, i've found a lot of the time in my id groups patterns are not so trustworthy lol
sorry to reup an old post, just saw the dates lol (i'm newer here, idk if i'll get crucified like on reddit lmao)
 

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The head markings are a great identifier for bark scorpions, kinda like striped barks typically always have the triangle even if the pattern is iffy, i've found a lot of the time in my id groups patterns are not so trustworthy lol
sorry to reup an old post, just saw the dates lol (i'm newer here, idk if i'll get crucified like on reddit lmao)
Oh no you wont! I always like hearing what people have to say on my posts, even if they are a bit old. And yeah, I'd have to agree with you on the head markings. There is a distinct difference between the head markings of an Arizona Bark and a Striped Bark.
 

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Here is a female AZ Bark that I collected. I had three females give birth in July. I let all the scorplings go in the wild and then one of the females gave birth again and the scorplings just went through their first molt a few days ago.
 

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As others have already said there are variations:

Centruroides sculpturatus
Centruroides sculpturatus "gertschi" form (striped form, lacks the dark triangular marking found on the carapace of C. vittatus)

Centruroides vittatus "mesic" form
Centruroides vittatus "xeric" form
Centruroides vittatus "pantheriensis" form (no markings or stripes, restricted to Big Bend)
 
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