Avicularia avicularia vs A sp amazonica?

[prairiepanda]

Just how different are the two? The amazonica looks more striking blue and red in photos, but is there really that much difference when seen in person?

 

[Storm76]

Oh yes! There is indeed!

A. avicularia looks pretty darkish blueish, while A. amazonica almost looks purple, has whitish hair tips and faint leg-bandings, not to mention that their whole abdomen is covered in red satae that aren't that dark, but look pretty much like blood in the correct light! It should also be mentioned that A. amazonica can grow up to 6" (A. avicularia seldomly grows over 4") and is one of the bigger Avicularia species in the genus.

 

[CEC]

There are two major differences-Size and Color

sp. amazonica are blueish purple under regular room lighting with long thick setae and a pinkish red abdomen reaching about 6-7in.

avicularia are blueish black under regular room lighting with shorter thinner setae and a brownish red abdomen reaching about 4-5in.

 

[prairiepanda]

thanks for the info! Photos are quite deceiving with all the filters people apply. Is the A geroldi also quite distinctive? I want to have a lot of variation in my collection, but I'm not sure about the geroldi because versicolor, amazonica, and avicularia all have the same body type...

 

[Storm76]

thanks for the info! Photos are quite deceiving with all the filters people apply. Is the A geroldi also quite distinctive? I want to have a lot of variation in my collection, but I'm not sure about the geroldi because versicolor, amazonica, and avicularia all have the same body type...

The body shape is pretty much the same for all of them. The sooretama looks more cigar-like actually than the rest of the genus, but
I'm keeping...

A. avicularia
A. amazonica
A. diversipes
A. azuraklaasi
A. geroldi
A. versicolor
A. velutina

currently and from those that are juvies / adults you see a lot of differences between them.

To give you an idea...

A. azuraklaasi female, ~5"


A. minatrix female, ~2.5 - 2.75"


A. purpurea male, 3.5"


A. diversipes sling, ~2"


A. avicularia female, 4"



As for A. geroldi: They look overall blackish with cyan/blueish hairs with white tips, no red satae on them. Very distinct looks in my opinion actually.

 

[Poec54]

To give you an idea...

Nice. I have to get more Avics.

 

[CEC]

A. geroldi is a lot closer in appearance to Avic avic. than sp. amazonica. IMO an A. geroldi is pretty much an Avic avic without the red setae.

 

[Storm76]

A. geroldi is a lot closer in appearance to Avic avic. than sp. amazonica. IMO an A. geroldi is pretty much an Avic avic without the red setae.

Not those I've seen over here - not at all. Their coloration is very subtle and very different from those I saw compared to A. avic.

This pic wasn't worked and they look slightly darker without flash, but this is one: http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/707/dscn3433ob5.jpg - very blueish! Lovely coloration IMO

Here's another pic: http://achtbeine.de/upload/Avicularia_geroldi_2008b.jpg

 

[CEC]

Yes, but in regular room lighting, they just look like a redless Avic avic to me. My main point was that A. geroldi are closer in appearance to Avic avic than sp. amazonica.

Jan, I could be completely wrong but I'm not convinced that your Avic. is an azuraklaasi, looks more like a large Avic avic or A. braunshauseni to me.

 

[Storm76]

Yes, but in regular room lighting, they just look like a redless Avic avic to me. My main point was that A. geroldi are closer in appearance to Avic avic than sp. amazonica.

Jan, I could be completely wrong but I'm not convinced that your Avic. is an azuraklaasi, looks more like a large Avic avic or A. braunshauseni to me.

As for my azuraklaasi, let's not discuss it right here, but you're welcome to post into my pic-thread - I updated some pictures of her just today.


Back to OP - here's some more Avics:

A. versicolor, 3.75-4" male - on females the abdominal satae aren't as bright, males are brighter with this species


A. amazonica juvie, 2.5" suspect male


A. amazonica juvie, ~2.75" suspect female



Note: I don't temper with my pictures accept adjusting gamma overall if need be. I don't play with color-levels or the like, so these actually DO look like that if you'd see them in person.

 

[CEC]

Very nice spiders and pictures Jan.

 

[Storm76]

Very nice spiders and pictures Jan.

Just trying to give the threadstarter an idea, since not everyone goes looking at picture threads

 

[prairiepanda]

Nice pics! Those are very helpful! It's going to be tough to limit myself

 

[ccamaleon3000]

A. amazonica juvie, 2.5" suspect male
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A. amazonica juvie, ~2.75" suspect female
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Thanks Storm Finally some one post a picture of the real amazonicas. most of the amazonicas were sold here are sb. peru purple. and for the op yes all are diferent when you own those and you see them growing togetter you will see the diference.