I have a mature female M6 and mature male A. avicularia can I pair them? I purchased the female as a avic avic and my intention was to pair them but it turns out to be an M6. This would be my first time pairing any T. I’ve had my male for a for awhile and he matured out about 7 months ago. The female was bought about a month ago.
Avicularia avicularia and Avicularia avicularia M6 pairing?
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NO. Absolutely not.
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No
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Currently, there are multiple morphotypes for Avic avic. In which different morphotypes should never be bred with each other.
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NOOO. It would be the most unethical and selfish behavior a breeder could do. WHY? below
When the Avic revision was completed there were several Avics, the M6 is but one, that were deemed morphotypes. No DNA analysis was performed on any of the Avics in the paper.
As a result these morphotypes were classified as A. avic Morphotype X, Y, Z
Until a genetic analysis is performed no one has any idea if they were are different species or not. I strongly believe they are a different species.
No one wants FrankenTs either. If you bought a "female" Avic, and it turned out to be male, would you be disappointed or upset? I know most people would be, the same is true for people who buy X, and instead end up with Z. No one wants Z, when they were were supposed to be get X !
There are TONS of recent examples of animals some in the exotics hobby that were thought to be ONE species and are actually TWO.
The most recent example is the anaconda.
Shock Discovery Reveals The Giant Anaconda Is More Than One Species
The green anaconda has long been considered one of the Amazon's most formidable and mysterious animals.
www.sciencealert.com
I’m not disappointed in getting the tarantula I just wanted to pair my male before it’s too late.NOOO. It would be the most unethical and selfish behavior a breeder could do. WHY? below
When the Avic revision was completed there were several Avics, the M6 is but one, that were deemed morphotypes. No DNA analysis was performed on any of the Avics in the paper.
As a result these morphotypes were classified as A. avic Morphotype X, Y, Z
Until a genetic analysis is performed no one has any idea if they were are different species or not. I strongly believe they are a different species.
No one wants FrankenTs either. If you bought a "female" Avic, and it turned out to be male, would you be disappointed or upset? I know most people would be, the same is true for people who buy X, and instead end up with Z. No one wants Z, when they were were supposed to be get X !
There are TONS of recent examples of animals some in the exotics hobby that were thought to be ONE species and are actually TWO.
The most recent example is the anaconda.
Shock Discovery Reveals The Giant Anaconda Is More Than One Species
The green anaconda has long been considered one of the Amazon's most formidable and mysterious animals.
I only asked about the difference due to lack of knowledge. This would be my first attempting to pair T’s and just wanted to understand the difference. I knew there was different species of Avic.
Now that I know what the difference is I don’t plan on pairing them so everyone just relax.
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Now you can try to track down a mature male A. avic (M6 - also referred to as Avicularia metallica) to pair with your girl. I'm betting you can find someone that could use your male, too - you could post an ad in the classified section for him and see if there are any interested parties.
I’m not sure if I could give him up. He was the first T I got when I got back into keeping tarantulas. I’ve typically only ever kept scorpions.
I’ll have to keep my eye out for a mature male M6 or female for him.
Here are some better pictures of him. Just want to confirm he is a common pink toe.
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I wouldn't give him up unless he was going to someone you KNOW. Too many breeders end up "not producing", only for the male owner to see some for sale later on...Lot of theft in Ts
Will do.
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the reason there are "Hobby Form" Ts in the industry is because people were cross breeding different morph types. We are trying to keep the genetics clean and not produce any hybrids because they can be bred when they mature and then we wind up with mish mash animals passing their genes down and producing "not quites"