Are assassin bugs really illegal?

[sloth]

I saw some old threads saying that assassin bugs are illegal to keep, is that true?

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Illegal to keep... where? You need to specify this detail, because here in Italy those buggers aren't illegal at all.

 

[The Seraph]

I saw some old threads saying that assassin bugs are illegal to keep, is that true?

No, I do not believe so. Maybe in some states but probably not all. How old were these threads? Things can change in a decade or so.

 

[The Seraph]

Illegal to keep... where? You need to specify this detail, because here in Italy those buggers aren't illegal at all.

I am assuming here:

 

[sloth]

Illegal to keep... where? You need to specify this detail, because here in Italy those buggers aren't illegal at all.

Sorry. I’m in the U.S. more specifically California.

No, I do not believe so. Maybe in some states but probably not all. How old were these threads? Things can change in a decade or so.

Yes indeed those threads were about 10 years old but still, it got me thinking.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

I am assuming here:

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Yes. But there's no harm into being a bit more detailed, eh.

 

[Arthroverts]

You are correct, they are illegal everywhere in the U.S under the Lacey Act I believe. However, if you aren't importing them (or releasing them in the wild), the government really does not seem to care. They are busy tracking down illegal imports of CITES restricted animals and usually don't have time to bother with the hundreds/thousands of assassin bug keepers here in the U.S.

Hope this helps,

Arthroverts

 

[mantisfan101]

I believe they are because apparently some species are known to mimic bees and hunt them so they are automatically considered threats to pollinators, which doesn’t make sense at all since the vast majority also hunt other species of insects.

 

[Arthroverts]

I like to think of U.S invertebrate legislation oftentimes as like a Black Widow's web: tangled, messy, haphazard and strewn with debris. A lot of confusion and blanket bans.
To give credit to the government though, they do a great job of protecting our agriculture and native wildlife. They just get carried away in banning non-dangerous and/or non-harmful species

Thanks,

Arthroverts

 

[basin79]

I like to think of U.S invertebrate legislation oftentimes as like a Black Widow's web: tangled, messy, haphazard and strewn with debris. A lot of confusion and blanket bans.
To give credit to the government though, they do a great job of protecting our agriculture and native wildlife. They just get carried away in banning non-dangerous and/or non-harmful species

Thanks,

Arthroverts

That's the uk's DWA in a nutshell. Except each town's council get to make up their own rules and prices for the license.

 

[The Snark]

I like to think of U.S invertebrate legislation oftentimes as like a Black Widow's web: tangled, messy, haphazard and strewn with debris.

I like to think of U.S invertebrate legislators oftentimes as like a Black Widow's web: tangled, messy, haphazard and strewn with debris.

 

[Introvertebrate]

Sorry. I’m in the U.S. more specifically California.

He knew that. Your location is in your avatar. He just wanted to flaunt the more lax European bug laws.

 

[The Mantis Menagerie]

You are correct, they are illegal everywhere in the U.S under the Lacey Act I believe. However, if you aren't importing them (or releasing them in the wild), the government really does not seem to care. They are busy tracking down illegal imports of CITES restricted animals and usually don't have time to bother with the hundreds/thousands of assassin bug keepers here in the U.S.

Hope this helps,

Arthroverts

It is not the Lacey Act that grants the USDA the ability to regulate exotic assassin bugs. The USDA derives this regulatory ability from the Plant Protection Act, classifying generalist predators as plant pests as they might feed on pollinators. There is an important distinction to make when considering regulations. Exotic assassin bugs require containment facilities and a PPQ 526 permit to own. Assassin bugs that are found in the continental US do not require permits, as long as you are not leaving the continental US.

 

[MetalMan2004]

There are tons in my backyard so I can’t imagine them being illegal. Can’t speak to “exotic” species though.

 

[MasterOogway]

Edit. Totally missed Mantis Menagerie's post. What he said.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

He knew that. Your location is in your avatar. He just wanted to flaunt the more lax European bug laws.

No, actually. I'm not exactly someone that praise European "bugs" laws as if those are so great and etc. I do point out, yes, that U.S prices are crazy higher (for a lot of various reasons) but I don't praise Europe at 360°.

Btw Italy, my nation, in 2003 banned every arachnid. Every arachnid. So isn't everything so lax, here, eh...

My point was, while he stated/states his location, yes, those can be bogus often (people can cheat, or rely on/type not recently updated locations etc). Nonetheless, the thread question wasn't so detailed because as you know what can be legal (or illegal) in CA may be perfectly legal (or illegal) in GA etc.

Bottom line, nothing bad into being more detailed, always. That's all. No 'flaunt' at all my friend

 

[Introvertebrate]

No, actually. I'm not exactly someone that praise European "bugs" laws as if those are so great and etc. I do point out, yes, that U.S prices are crazy higher (for a lot of various reasons) but I don't praise Europe at 360°.

Btw Italy, my nation, in 2003 banned every arachnid. Every arachnid. So isn't everything so lax, here, eh...

My point was, while he stated/states his location, yes, those can be bogus often (people can cheat, or rely on/type not recently updated locations etc). Nonetheless, the thread question wasn't so detailed because as you know what can be legal (or illegal) in CA may be perfectly legal (or illegal) in GA etc.

Bottom line, nothing bad into being more detailed, always. That's all. No 'flaunt' at all my friend

Well then I misjudged you. My apologies.

 

[SonsofArachne]

I wouldn't worry, they're for sale literally everywhere in the US. If they went after anybody it would be the big online sellers.