Apparently I'm not allowed a water dish says.....

[Psingletongolf]

...My Costa Rica Tiger rump. Within an hour of finding it he puts all the dirt he can in it and then webs over it. This has happened a few times. Any suggestions?

 

[Methal]

now that right there is cute.
Follow the following steps:
1) refill water dish
2) record video of Tiger rump during said behaviors
3) post video on Youtube
4) ??
5) Profit =D

would love to see this.

more to the point, my OBT does something similar. Either She'll fill it full of dirt, or will drag it into her cave and use it as a roof....

 

[cold blood]

...My Costa Rica Tiger rump. Within an hour of finding it he puts all the dirt he can in it and then webs over it. This has happened a few times. Any suggestions?

Very very common with many different species from every part of the globe they exist.

Either clean out and re-fill as needed, or you can go with a couple water dishes in different locations.

Its just part of keeping t's. Be glad you only have one doing this...lol.

 

[CEC]

Lots of Ts do this. If he keeps it up, just mist the web for drinking water.

 

[viper69]

I really wonder why they do this. It's doubtful in the wild they are terraforming. My GUESS is in their human made prisons they establish the walls as their home, and dishes become holes with a soft substrate (water) and so they fill them up. They don't like soft sub, so it's completely a guess.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

...My Costa Rica Tiger rump. Within an hour of finding it he puts all the dirt he can in it and then webs over it. This has happened a few times. Any suggestions?

Yea this is normal sometimes I use two water dishes. I need a Costa Rica Tiger rump someday :biggrin:.

 

[Poec54]

I really wonder why they do this. It's doubtful in the wild they are terraforming. My GUESS is in their human made prisons they establish the walls as their home, and dishes become holes with a soft substrate (water) and so they fill them up. They don't like soft sub, so it's completely a guess.

I think they do it in the wild: intentionally fill in holes and low spots near their burrow. It's a good way to dispose of the substrate from their digging to keep from attracting predators. It also makes for a smooth runway to their burrow, so that when a predator is chasing them, they're not stumbling over holes when they have to dart back in.

I think just about everything spiders do in captivity is driven by evolutionary responses to similar situations in their native habitat. It sometimes frustrates and confuses us, but to them it makes perfect sense, because it works for them in the wild.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

I think they do it in the wild: intentionally fill in holes and low spots near their burrow. It's a good way to dispose of the substrate from their digging to keep from attracting predators. It also makes for a smooth runway to their burrow, so that when a predator is chasing them, they're not stumbling over holes when they have to dart back in.

I think just about everything spiders do in captivity is driven by evolutionary responses to similar situations in their native habitat. It sometimes frustrates and confuses us, but to them it makes perfect sense, because it works for them in the wild.

+1 How do Ts fight of hungry Giant centipedes?? those things are crazy fast & mean. Or do pedes usually stick to easier prey? I know spiders, scrops, pedes all usualy live in similar hiding spots like under rocks..
Tough life in the wild for these huge spiders.

 

[cold blood]

+1 How do Ts fight of hungry Giant centipedes?? those things are crazy fast & mean. Or do pedes usually stick to easier prey? I know spiders, scrops, pedes all usualy live in similar hiding spots like under rocks..
Tough life in the wild for these huge spiders.

They block burrows with dirt or webbing or both and spent most of their time underground or at least under something. For NW, there's the hairs they spread in and around their burrows as well. OW's add extreme speed to escape.

A hungry pede will eat ANYTHING it can overpower, and they won't think twice about approaching even a good size t if its a big enough pede. Those things are aggressive and with all those legs, difficult to overpower.

 

[Poec54]

They block burrows with dirt or webbing or both and spent most of their time underground or at least under something. For NW, there's the hairs they spread in and around their burrows as well. OW's add extreme speed to escape.

A hungry pede will eat ANYTHING it can overpower, and they won't think twice about approaching even a good size t if its a big enough pede. Those things are aggressive and with all those legs, difficult to overpower.

I can't imagine the fear a spider feels when a large centipede approaches.

 

[Galapoheros]

I think they do it in the wild: intentionally fill in holes and low spots near their burrow. It's a good way to dispose of the substrate from their digging to keep from attracting predators. It also makes for a smooth runway to their burrow, so that when a predator is chasing them, they're not stumbling over holes when they have to dart back in.

I think just about everything spiders do in captivity is driven by evolutionary responses to similar situations in their native habitat. It sometimes frustrates and confuses us, but to them it makes perfect sense, because it works for them in the wild.

That's what has made the most sense to me, prob simply an obstacle they don't want there, my Aphonopelma pick up the small caps of water I use and move them away from their place.

 

[viper69]

I think they do it in the wild: intentionally fill in holes and low spots near their burrow. It's a good way to dispose of the substrate from their digging to keep from attracting predators. It also makes for a smooth runway to their burrow, so that when a predator is chasing them, they're not stumbling over holes when they have to dart back in.

I think just about everything spiders do in captivity is driven by evolutionary responses to similar situations in their native habitat. It sometimes frustrates and confuses us, but to them it makes perfect sense, because it works for them in the wild.

Yeah near burrows, I meant further out should they venture out more than normal. Oh, I know it's evolutionary response alright, I don't know the reason behind it. I wish I did.

 

[Galapoheros]

I can't imagine the fear a spider feels when a large centipede approaches.

I've put exos of each in with each to see how they react and yeah, there is def a natural response, at least with the bigger Scolopendra, the Ts usually run away immediately.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

I've put exos of each in with each to see how they react and yeah, there is def a natural response, at least with the bigger Scolopendra, the Ts usually run away immediately.

+1 Those pedes will eat anything, Big emp scorps 7" however could prob win if they use claws well enough or are in communal groups. Pede could still win though if it gets a bite in.

 

[Tim Benzedrine]

Maybe they know instinctively that a water source draws other creatures, some of which might be a threat. So eliminating the water source helps eliminate interlopers.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

Maybe they know instinctively that a water source draws other creatures, some of which might be a threat. So eliminating the water source helps eliminate interlopers.

bigger Scolopendra love moisture, case closed water dish is a invitation as Pede dinner for a T.

 

[AphonopelmaTX]

I think they do it in the wild: intentionally fill in holes and low spots near their burrow. It's a good way to dispose of the substrate from their digging to keep from attracting predators. It also makes for a smooth runway to their burrow, so that when a predator is chasing them, they're not stumbling over holes when they have to dart back in.

Out of the many different tarantula populations I have seen in the wild, I have always seen the exact opposite. Of course these are Texas species and doesn't mean that it isn't impossible in other locations. Every burrow that has a resident will form a pile of soil outside of the entrance from the soil it takes from the inside. The behavior in the wild is exactly the same as it is in captivity. It's a sure tell sign for me that a tarantula is in it's burrow. I'm sure the silk around or within a tarantula's burrow would be a better trigger to alert predators of their presence than a pile of dirt.

Perhaps though the explanation of why a tarantula puts the dirt in a water dish is more simple in that tarantulas just do not like standing water near their burrow.

 

[Galapoheros]

I see the same here, I have them all over my yard. But the dirt is moved away from the hole, not far to our eyes, maybe only a few inches but, in my yard, they do make an effort to carry a good deal of it several inches away from the hole. It may be that when we cage a T, because of the enclosure, it explored it, hit the boundaries, and so feels safe in the larger area since it does have boundaries. Maybe it claims more territory because of that, maybe the whole cage and so manages more of it, hmmm, yeah just had that though, makes some sense to me anyway.

 

[AphonopelmaTX]

I see the same here, I have them all over my yard. But the dirt is moved away from the hole, not far to our eyes, maybe only a few inches but, in my yard, they do make an effort to carry a good deal of it several inches away from the hole. It may be that when we cage a T, because of the enclosure, it explored it, hit the boundaries, and so feels safe in the larger area since it does have boundaries. Maybe it claims more territory because of that, maybe the whole cage and so manages more of it, hmmm, yeah just had that though, makes some sense to me anyway.

This is exactly the same conclusion I have come too with comparing the behavior of wild tarantulas to captive ones. The idea of boundaries, as stated, is a very good point. I'm sure the same idea applies even to to wild tarantulas. Galapoheros, I bet with the tarantulas in your yard there is more distance between burrows than the ones I observe which is a large population in a relatively small land area where burrows are mere inches away from each other. Where I see them, there are so many in a small amount of space that during the mating season in early June, the males will practically walk across your feet if you stand still long enough. Kind of takes the fun out of looking when they walk up to you.

 

[ArachnoFreak666]

This is exactly the same conclusion I have come too with comparing the behavior of wild tarantulas to captive ones. The idea of boundaries, as stated, is a very good point. I'm sure the same idea applies even to to wild tarantulas. Galapoheros, I bet with the tarantulas in your yard there is more distance between burrows than the ones I observe which is a large population in a relatively small land area where burrows are mere inches away from each other. Where I see them, there are so many in a small amount of space that during the mating season in early June, the males will practically walk across your feet if you stand still long enough. Kind of takes the fun out of looking when they walk up to you.

takes the fun out of it for you, but I wish I could witness this in florida!