Aphonopelma Seemanni Blue+Brown=slings?

[Aeb400]

I have a ? about my A. Seemanni... I have a adult female A. Seemanni that is all black (Blue phase?) I have had for about 5-6 yrs. I have recently bought a 3+" Stripe knee @ the local pet store and it is brown. If the brown one ends up being a male can I breed him with my female (hence the different color phase)???? Thanks,

 

[Moltar]

If they're both A seemani they'll be able to reproduce no prob. This species changes color dramatically from post-molt to pre-molt. If you were to compare the two you might think they were different species altogether.

I've read some debate about whether there really is a "blue phase" at all. I've seen one with some blue but it was pretty subtle. It was nothing like the blue in a H lividum or something.

 

[bio teacher]

There are a lot of opinions out there that believe you should only breed the dark phase with another dark phase and the light phase with another light phase. I believe the dark phase A.seemanni is one of the most beautiful tarantulas out there. I hope my 3/4" sling matures into the dark phase.

 

[Aeb400]

etown_411: you stated that they change color, my female I bought from a pet store when she was about 2 3/4". Through out all of her molts she has never appeared to have changed any other color.

 

[Moltar]

I didn't mean color changes like avics & pampho's go through as they mature. I just meant that they get notably more drab brown as a molt approaches, moreso than many other spp. If you haven't noticed this then perhaps it's something that can vary from one specimen to another...?

bioteacher makes a good point, btw. It probably would be better to mate her w/ a blue phase if you can find one. Perhaps that will increase your chance of getting blue babies.

 

[GartenSpinnen]

Blue phase = marketing ploy... i dont buy it.

 

[WARPIG]

When I bought my A seemanni he was chocolate brown, two molts later and he is getting much darker and starting to show black on his legs.

Here you can see that his rump is between red/brown, and you can see the black starting to peek through his legs. His legs have even gotten darker now.

I can't wait til he's all black.

BTW I have seen A seemannis which have a blue hue, but not what you call true blue.

PIG-

 

[Moltar]

I think a lot of species w/ black coloration can look blue in the right light. My b albo molted and had pretty blueish legs for about a week or so.

See?

 

[bio teacher]

I know it is an A. seemanni because of the orange spinnerets, but I have never seen one where it has so faint stripping on the legs.

 

[Aeb400]

Here's a pic of her... I don't want to change the subject, but notice the couple of indents on her abdomen (I tried to circle them in red). What are they about?
My curly hair had blue like that too, but like you stated not for long...

 

[Rochelle]

This is my dirty A. seemani Fem; "Priscilla". She's a Blue phase.
This is a pic of her almost a year after molting.
No brown.
I didn't know anything about color phases when I got her; I just got lucky.
I've had her for years and she's sweet as can be. Very docile and handleable without hair kicking.

If I were going to breed her, I'd only do it with another "blue phase" in hopes of getting more slings with the same genes.

 

[Aeb400]

Here's a pic of the brown A. Seemanni I have... I bought this one from a pet store and it was just called a stripe knee. I bought it because at the time I didn't know there were 2 different color phases and I had to find out. Other than the faint stripes and orange spinnerets, I would not think this was a Seemanni... And is the correct spelling Seemanni with 2 N's or 1???

 

[Dillon]

looks just like mine!!

 

[arrowhd]

I was questionable about the color phases in this species. However, this week I found an adult A. seemani at a pet store that is most definetly brown. It is need of a molt and wild caught I believe. It looks nothing like the A. seemani I owned for two years that turned out to be a male. It was a black color with much more distinct stripes on the legs. Even before a molt it was never brown.

Are we looking at regional variations? I remember reading about a Guatemalan and Costa Rican variety. Is this the difference?

 

[arachnidgirl]

This is my dirty A. seemani Fem; "Priscilla". She's a Blue phase.
This is a pic of her almost a year after molting.
No brown.
I didn't know anything about color phases when I got her; I just got lucky.
I've had her for years and she's sweet as can be. Very docile and handleable without hair kicking.

If I were going to breed her, I'd only do it with another "blue phase" in hopes of getting more slings with the same genes.

Lucky.....my female A. seemanni hates being bothers. You open the lid to her tank and she flees. She is awfully beautiful though. Very defensive

 

[Widowman10]

hmmm, my girl was blue for about a week after her molt as well, but then just turned to black. more than a couple T's i have had look slightly blue after a molt, but unless it stays blue-ish like in rochelle's pic, it's not a "blue-phase".

sorry, that was a bit off topic. to answer the question, it won't matter what you breed as long as it's the same species. you might have a greater possibility of getting "blue-phase" slings if you breed two alike adults, but it's still gonna be genes, just like with the RCF rosea.