anyone use backyard dirt as substrate?

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i want to add depth to the substrate in my parahybana tank, she's in a ten gall and the sub is only 2" i know it needs to be a lot deeper. but i don't want to spend 20$ on coco fiber to fill it up..so will it work to use some dirt from my backyard to fill it about halfway up and then put the coco fiber on top of that? does anyone else do this?
 

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Agreed with Warren.

Go to Home Depot and buy a couple 40lb bags of EarthGro Topsoil.

$1.29/bag
 

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i want to add depth to the substrate in my parahybana tank, she's in a ten gall and the sub is only 2" i know it needs to be a lot deeper. but i don't want to spend 20$ on coco fiber to fill it up..so will it work to use some dirt from my backyard to fill it about halfway up and then put the coco fiber on top of that? does anyone else do this?
Go to lowes and get a bag of peat for $9*** or what Joe mentioned..
 

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Agreed with Warren.

Go to Home Depot and buy a couple 40lb bags of EarthGro Topsoil.

$1.29/bag
ok two things, one they seriously sell 40 pound bags for 1.29$??? wow! lol also, whats the difference between topsoil they sell, and topsoil i can go into the woods and get myself?? i admit that my backyard isn't a good place to get it because of possible chemicals in the soil
 

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ok two things, one they seriously sell 40 pound bags for 1.29$??? wow! lol also, whats the difference between topsoil they sell, and topsoil i can go into the woods and get myself?? i admit that my backyard isn't a good place to get it because of possible chemicals in the soil
Check the ingredients. A lot of commercial soils and substrates will add chemicals to the bag which may or may not be safe for the T. They do sell brands that are chemical free though such as what xhexdx suggested. I happen to use topsoil from a gravel yard and really only started using it because we had to buy a buttload of it anyway for xeriscaping the yard.
 

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Check the ingredients. A lot of commercial soils and substrates will add chemicals to the bag which may or may not be safe for the T. They do sell brands that are chemical free though such as what xhexdx suggested. I happen to use topsoil from a gravel yard and really only started using it because we had to buy a buttload of it anyway for xeriscaping the yard.
exactly, but my point is, if there selling top soil with no additives, its just plain dirt, why should i buy their plain dirt, instead of going out into a less populated area and getting my own??
 

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exactly, but my point is, if there selling top soil with no additives, its just plain dirt, why should i buy their plain dirt, instead of going out into a less populated area and getting my own??
That's the million dollar question isn't it? I honestly don't see much of a difference in buying store-bought top soil and soil that you sterilize yourself. You just have to be careful where you get it as some areas use pesticides even if it's not someone's yard. Store-bought brands will be safer in that regard as long as you buy one without additives. So, unless you are certain that the topsoil you are digging up has not been exposed to pesticides, chemicals, or contaminated run off, then I would probably buy store-bought brands if you want less of a risk. However, I will say that I've used dirt from outside before with no issue.
 

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Your spider deserves quality, just go out and get it something that most likely won't have any other bugs w it.
 

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exactly, but my point is, if there selling top soil with no additives, its just plain dirt, why should i buy their plain dirt, instead of going out into a less populated area and getting my own??
Because the dirt you get from outside is full of bugs, mites, seeds, fungi...
 

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Because the dirt you get from outside is full of bugs, mites, seeds, fungi...
Which the majority of that can still be sterilized and sifted out of the dirt. It's a lot more work but it is still possible to do. I've also bought plenty of bags from the store that had the same issue with fungi and bugs flourishing in the packaging. So the main reason I would probably buy from the store rather than dig up substrate would be the time and effort I would have to put into sterilizing it before using.
 

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Ok then. You asked, I (and others) answered. Do whatever you want to do.
 

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I also didn't quote you in my response.
Ah okay. I'm just giving information based on experience, readings, and practices of myself and others with much more experience than I. I didn't mean to offend you if I did.
 

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As long as your area isn't sprayed with pesticides I see no harm using soil collected from outside!I use leaf litter from outside and have used pieces of wood and bark as well.For using bark or wood make sure to let them dry very well before placing in a tank.
Also make sure if you are using soil from outside you don't dig up any ant colonys with the soil lol!They wont do to well with your spiders ;]
-Chris
 

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As long as your area isn't sprayed with pesticides I see no harm using soil collected from outside!I use leaf litter from outside and have used pieces of wood and bark as well.For using bark or wood make sure to let them dry very well before placing in a tank.
Also make sure if you are using soil from outside you don't dig up any ant colonys with the soil lol!They wont do to well with your spiders ;]
-Chris
Ive used bark from the outdoors as well. I just baked it in the oven to kill any pest or fungus I couldn't see. Stunk for a bit but better than any mites or anything like that. My question would be could the OP bake the soil to kill any unwanted guest? I don't know if it's plausible or not just kinda throwing it out there.

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i see what the op is saying but so what spend the twenty i mean me personally i have no problem spending my last penny on my babies id buy them food before id eat thats just me though
 

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Ive used bark from the outdoors as well. I just baked it in the oven to kill any pest or fungus I couldn't see. Stunk for a bit but better than any mites or anything like that. My question would be could the OP bake the soil to kill any unwanted guest? I don't know if it's plausible or not just kinda throwing it out there.
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yes i was going to bake and or freeze it :)

i see what the op is saying but so what spend the twenty i mean me personally i have no problem spending my last penny on my babies id buy them food before id eat thats just me though
i am the same way, but the only problem with this is, if i spend my last penny, i wouldn't have any money left to buy food for them :?
 

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i am the same way, but the only problem with this is, if i spend my last penny, i wouldn't have any money left to buy food for them :?
:? i get about ten large for a dollar at my lps im not aspose to get that many but well im a regular :cool: i mean ill give you a dollar man you dont live but twenty mins from me :eek:
 
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