alcohol and venom

[tweakz]

So on Tuesday I had an escape whilst doing maintenance in my P. ornata enclosure. She ended up on the wall and while trying to coax her into a catch up she jumped on to my arm, tagged me then jumped down to the floor and ended up in a corner. I called for my roommate and he grabbed a sterilite tub that used to be an enclosure and trapped it. He then took me to the hospital and I was basically useless until today(really fun explaining to my professors why I've been absent). You've all seen the bite reports so I'll just say "holy ****! Worst pain I've ever experienced accompanied with nausea, cramping and chest pains (first bite and it's from a 7" ornata go figure)." Tomorrow night is my girlfriends birthday and we're having a party at a friends bar. My question is does anyone know how alcohol and poec venom mix? I'm most likely not even going to risk it as I don't even feel like drinking due to the reoccurring symptoms but it got me curious. Does anyone have any experience drinking 3-5 days after an OW bite and would it be dangerous?

 

[freedumbdclxvi]

I would imagine three-five minutes after the pain started would have been the time to bust out Dr. Jack Daniels.

 

[tweakz]

Yeah I've always thought of alcohol as the only way to really combat the pain since painkillers don't work but you gotta understand alcohol sounded so unappetizing while I was going throught it.

 

[korg]

I'm sure you'll be fine. I am, however, kind of laughing at the thought of you explaining to your girlfriend's friends that "Yeah, I'm not feeling too hot. I was recently bitten by the giant Sri Lankan forest tarantula that I keep in my room."

 

[tweakz]

You have no idea lol I generally just keep my room locked when her friends come over because I'm so sick of the reaction when they realize what all those enclosures are housing.

 

[cold blood]

A little while back on a thread about OW bites, there was someone with a medical background that explained how (don't recall exactly) alcohol right after a bite was a bad idea. Dunno about 3 days, my guess would be that it would be fine by now.

Sucks you got tagged!

 

[tweakz]

It was get tagged or let her drop 8 ft and in that split second I decided to not let her drop, still don't regret it she's my prized possesion.

 

[cold blood]

It was get tagged or let her drop 8 ft and in that split second I decided to not let her drop, still don't regret it she's my prized possesion.

I hear ya...ya gotta do what ya gotta do

Its really a reaction, you probably didn't even have the time to think about it.

 

[tweakz]

While I didn't really give it a deep analyses I did intentionally leave my arm out so she wouldn't take the full drop.

 

[Oumriel]

While I didn't really give it a deep analyses I did intentionally leave my arm out so she wouldn't take the full drop.

I had something similar happen tonight. It was my 4 in female versicolor, I didn't get bitten and it was totally my fault. I had opened the amac container to feed her and the cricket jumped out of my fingers so I went after the cricket and took the open part of the amac, where she was. I caught the cricket and went to toss it in and she had come to the open part, I didn't see this as I tossed the cricket. She jumped out, caught the cricket and was flying towards the tile floor. With out even thinking I tried to catch her with my free hand. She hot potatoed off my hand a few times before landing on the couch still holding the cricket. She is fine but it could have been bad. Totally my fault. I can relate to just reaching out to prevent the accident. Sorry you were bitten After that happened tonight and reading your bite thread, I can't help but think that I maybe need to rehome my regalis.

 

[Akai]

Please submit a bite report. This information is very useful for fellow hobbyist. We can never have enough bite reports. I couldn't imagine being bitten by a 7" inch P.ornata so I'm glad you're OK.

 

[Beary Strange]

If you notice, a fair few of the bites reported are directly preceded by alcohol (and then the impaired judgement that follows) so if alcohol was in the system of these other people before they got bit, I'm sure you're fine doing the reverse. Maybe just nothing hard until you know how it's going to affect you? I'd be more concerned with any pain killers or muscle relaxers you might be on, working or not, because those you don't want to be mixing with alcohol. Or if you still experiencing chest pains, probably best not to.

And I applaud you for doing the right thing and taking the bite, rather than risking her life.

 

[klawfran3]

Alcohol is a vasodilator. If you drink alcohol while venom is in your body, it will just help the spread of it to other parts of you. Alcohol shouldn't really be used as a pain reliever (okay maybe emotionally but we won't talk about that :sarcasm because of this. Then also you don't really want to have MORE chemicals in your blood on top of spider venom. It could just create complications and make things worse.

 

[freedumbdclxvi]

Cyril: Wh-? No, alcohol's a vasodilator! It's the absolute worst possible thing you can do for a snakebite!
Archer: Well maybe for regular people.Cyril, it's already full of cobra venom, now's not the time for any more chemical changes to my blood!
Cyril: Okay, give it to him.

That's my first thought after reading klaw's post. Man, I love Archer.

Alcohol is a vasodilator. If you drink alcohol while venom is in your body, it will just help the spread of it to other parts of you. Alcohol shouldn't really be used as a pain reliever (okay maybe emotionally but we won't talk about that :sarcasm because of this. Then also you don't really want to have MORE chemicals in your blood on top of spider venom. It could just create complications and make things worse.

 

[Ghost Dragon]

I hear ya...ya gotta do what ya gotta do

Its really a reaction, you probably didn't even have the time to think about it.

Amen to that. Good on you, tweakz, for thinking of your ornata before yourself, but very sorry you got tagged. Have to rehouse my 5+ P. rufilata this weekend.... now I'm nervous.

 

[DVMT]

Cyril: Wh-? No, alcohol's a vasodilator! It's the absolute worst possible thing you can do for a snakebite!
Archer: Well maybe for regular people.Cyril, it's already full of cobra venom, now's not the time for any more chemical changes to my blood!
Cyril: Okay, give it to him.

That's my first thought after reading klaw's post. Man, I love Archer.

I need to catch up on my Archer! Show kills me! lol