100 yr old dragon found in a jar

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A pickled "dragon" that looks as if it might once have flown around Harry Potter's Hogwarts has been found in a garage in Oxfordshire, England.

The baby dragon, in a sealed jar, was discovered with a metal tin containing paperwork in old-fashioned German of the 1890s.

Allistair Mitchell, who was asked to investigate the dragon by a friend, David Hart, who discovered it in his garage, speculates that German scientists may have attempted to use the dragon to hoax their English counterparts at the end of the 19th century, when rivalry between the countries was intense.

"At the time, scientists were the equivalent of today's pop stars. It would have been a great propaganda coup for the Germans if it had come off," Mr Mitchell said.

"I've shown the photos to someone from Oxford University and he thought it was amazing. Obviously he could not say if it was real and wanted to do a biopsy."

The documents suggest that the Natural History Museum turned the dragon away, possibly because they suspected it was a trick, and sent it to be destroyed. But it appears a porter intercepted the jar and took it home. The papers suggest the porter may have been Frederick Hart - David Hart's grandfather.

Mr Mitchell said: "The dragon is flawless, from the tiny teeth to the umbilical cord. It could be made from indiarubber, because Germany was the world's leading manufacturer of it at the time, or it could be made of wax. It has to be fake. No one has ever proved scientifically that dragons exist. But everyone who sees it immediately asks, 'Is it real?"'

Some scientists believe that dragons, though the product of imagination, were inspired by the extraordinary creatures that once roamed the Earth.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/01/28/1075088090949.html
 

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I want one.................Daddy I want a dragon and I want it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! insert voice of faruka from willy wonka
 

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This has already been proved a hoax, like, over a year ago. Amazing what someone with a little knowledge of Photoshop, combined with too much time on their hands, too little scruples, and a working knowledge of P.T. Barnum's famous quote can accomplish, isn't it?

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But really, how could anybody have considered it anything BUT a hoax? I guess Barnum was right.
 

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well, the only thing real about it i can think of is that they could of used real bones to make a structure which they put the materials around, but thats it.

dragons are awsome.... too bad they arent real lol
 

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This has already been proved a hoax, like, over a year ago. Amazing what someone with a little knowledge of Photoshop, combined with too much time on their hands, too little scruples, and a working knowledge of P.T. Barnum's famous quote can accomplish, isn't it?

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It's not photoshopped. :rolleyes: It's a latex sculpture.
 

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It's not photoshopped. :rolleyes: It's a latex sculpture.
yeah, I think its cool, I love dragons ;)

I carved one out of yellow pine....never do that again:eek: sorry for the sucky pic

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it would be fun to have various mythological creature fetuses in jars, arranged on a shelf somewhere. Wish I had the talent to pull something like that off.
 

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hmm about proving te dragon part I was watching discovery channel and theres a group of scientist found a preserved dragon in ice in the Himalayas. The dragon was in a room and which they couldnt get in due to the ice so the put this robotic camera and put it through a hole and they got the footage of the dragons body with 2 soildres. All that i noe is that the truth is out there waiting for us to discover unimaginable stuff.
 

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Are you talking about a show called Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real? If you are then that one was fake too....
 

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i think in the book of job (or one of the books near it) it describes lizards or beasts that breath smoke. whether or not you believe in "god" i find it interesting a text that old talks about smoke breathing beast
 

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i think in the book of job (or one of the books near it) it describes lizards or beasts that breath smoke. whether or not you believe in "god" i find it interesting a text that old talks about smoke breathing beast
you know, your right. and now that i think about it, the "burning bush" mentioned was proven real, as a plant that somehow can set itself on fire. (i think through oil on its leaves)

so maybe at one point there was a species of animal that breathed what past humans would consider smoke or fire.
 

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There are many ancient mythologies that talk about strange creatures. Man had as much imagination then as he does now.
 

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Why not? There are beetles that shoot burning chemicals at enemies (I can't think of the name), horned toads/lizards that squirt blood from their eyes, snakes that shoot venom at the eyes of enemies, venomous lizards, birds with spurs on their wings or legs and the platypus with not only spurs but poison glands . There are so many truly odd ways animals can defend themselves it isn't much of a stretch to imagine something like dragons may have been real. Some animals use chemical combinations that you might think would kill the animal using them but along with that they've also got delivery methods that protect them. Why wouldn't it be possible for an animal to have a defensive/offensive chemical combination that smokes and flames?
 

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well lots of methane in cow burps, so lets just say a big lizard like thing had that same problem and burped near a flaming creosote bush... fire breathing dragon.
But people come on really. What were called dragons may very well have existed with humans. too many similar tales of the same things in cultures far removed. so I believe that there were something akin to dinosaurs living with man at one time in history. They were not far from extinction however, and who knows maybe somewhere a Sasquatch has a pet Velociraptor...
 

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That's like saying that the Earth was created by a group of gods because so many cultures have that myth. Cultures weren't isolated from one another, they had contact, and they shared things.

Where is the physical evidence that dragons existed? I think it's very likely that the ancients came across dinosaur bones and made things up about them. The same thing happened with unicorns and the rhinoceros.
 
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"That's like saying that the Earth was created by a group of gods because so many cultures have that myth. "

I don't get the connection. If you make that argument it is more like saying the earth was created by the gods because there are fossil records of god-like beings of many types and many variations of god-like beings currently in evidence living on the planet which can be studied, which there are not. That is not what is being said, but rather speculation that some sort of dragon could be possible based upon past and current evidence of the types of variations creatures possess.
 
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