Grammostola sp. "Chile"
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Grammostola sp. "Chile"

Also known as G. rosea (NCF) or G. porteri.
Is "sp. Chile" the new name? I know there is debate/confusion over rosea vs porterii when not the "red form" rosea but this is first time I have seen sp. Chile described. 🤔

She is gorgeous whatever way she is described.

*Although does make sense and helps stop any confusion I guess ha ha
 
Is "sp. Chile" the new name?
No man, I just made that up. Lol.


debate/confusion over rosea vs porterii
I use that name to try and create a debate, indeed. As you may know, scientifically, porteri was synonymized with rosea. If you see the article, you'll notice that the individual there is what we know as G. rosea RCF.
So, if porteri is G. rosea RCF, our "hobby porteri" might be something else we dont know, yet.
 
No man, I just made that up. Lol.



I use that name to try and create a debate, indeed. As you may know, scientifically, porteri was synonymized with rosea. If you see the article, you'll notice that the individual there is what we know as G. rosea RCF.
So, if porteri is G. rosea RCF, our "hobby porteri" might be something else we dont know, yet.
Like your style. Ha ha
I do like the "sp. Chile" name tho 😉

*Even though will probably boil someone's p1ss by saying that 🤣🤣🤣
 
It's a good 'ol rosie, plain and simple. It's unfortunate that not many seem to be breeding them more now that they're becoming more and more scarce.

My AF is my chillest T in my collection, she'll often sit smack in the middle of her enclosure, waiting patiently for a few crickets to drop from the sky :) Love her to bits !
 
It's a good 'ol rosie, plain and simple. It's unfortunate that not many seem to be breeding them more now that they're becoming more and more scarce.

My AF is my chillest T in my collection, she'll often sit smack in the middle of her enclosure, waiting patiently for a few crickets to drop from the sky :) Love her to bits !
I tried breeding them once, managed to track down a male and paired successfully with multiple insertions but then typically, the female changes her moult cycle and moults before an egg sac produced. 😡

Not seen any males since as I have 4 AF rosea and 7 AF rosea reds all wanting male friends to have some spider sexy time with.

Agree more breeding needed of these beautiful classic spiders
 
I tried breeding them once, managed to track down a male and paired successfully with multiple insertions but then typically, the female changes her moult cycle and moults before an egg sac produced. 😡

Not seen any males since as I have 4 AF rosea and 7 AF rosea reds all wanting male friends to have some spider sexy time with.

Agree more breeding needed of these beautiful classic spiders
And not everybody is willing to give over a decade of their time to raise these spiders to adulthood, which aren't always desirable given their propensity to fast. But I'd say that fasting is probably a result of new keepers that are misinformed and think that their spider needs to eat every few days. The spider becomes obese and stops feeding for months up to a year or two, which can worry new keepers.

Another thing I've noticed of late is that a lot of new keepers tend to want to pass over the "boring beginner spiders" and start off with more exotic species. Despite that De Vosjoli (Arachnomania, 1991) had written that this spider was the most commonly available at the time or writing, to me the Grammostola spatulata pictured on page 46 made it look as exotic as the Poecilotheria regalis, the Citharischius crawshayi and even the Theraphosa blondi pictured elsewhere in that same book. It made a huge impression on me.

If I wasn't currently tight on space, I would happily attempt this project as both a learning opportunity and the chance a few hundred more "Rosies" to be on the market. Last I heard, Chile will not be opening their doors to exportation anytime soon, and that is truly unfortunate. Of all the various species from Chile, this one is probably the one pretty much everybody took for granted. We're lucky that Mexico developed a breeding program of their native Brachypelma and other species to not only supply the hobby, but also return some of its produced slings into the wild. If only Chile and especially India/Sri Lanka (for the Poecilotheria genus) would take their example.

I can't think of a better species where "underappreciated" suits them more.
 
And not everybody is willing to give over a decade of their time to raise these spiders to adulthood, which aren't always desirable given their propensity to fast. But I'd say that fasting is probably a result of new keepers that are misinformed and think that their spider needs to eat every few days. The spider becomes obese and stops feeding for months up to a year or two, which can worry new keepers.

Another thing I've noticed of late is that a lot of new keepers tend to want to pass over the "boring beginner spiders" and start off with more exotic species. Despite that De Vosjoli (Arachnomania, 1991) had written that this spider was the most commonly available at the time or writing, to me the Grammostola spatulata pictured on page 46 made it look as exotic as the Poecilotheria regalis, the Citharischius crawshayi and even the Theraphosa blondi pictured elsewhere in that same book. It made a huge impression on me.

If I wasn't currently tight on space, I would happily attempt this project as both a learning opportunity and the chance a few hundred more "Rosies" to be on the market. Last I heard, Chile will not be opening their doors to exportation anytime soon, and that is truly unfortunate. Of all the various species from Chile, this one is probably the one pretty much everybody took for granted. We're lucky that Mexico developed a breeding program of their native Brachypelma and other species to not only supply the hobby, but also return some of its produced slings into the wild. If only Chile and especially India/Sri Lanka (for the Poecilotheria genus) would take their example.

I can't think of a better species where "underappreciated" suits them more.
I have been keeping Ts for 30+ years and they were so under-rated like you say, that I remember people even struggled to give them away for free! Now they are hot property and tha thankfully commanding the respect they deserve.
 
And not everybody is willing to give over a decade of their time to raise these spiders to adulthood, which aren't always desirable given their propensity to fast. But I'd say that fasting is probably a result of new keepers that are misinformed and think that their spider needs to eat every few days. The spider becomes obese and stops feeding for months up to a year or two, which can worry new keepers.

Another thing I've noticed of late is that a lot of new keepers tend to want to pass over the "boring beginner spiders" and start off with more exotic species. Despite that De Vosjoli (Arachnomania, 1991) had written that this spider was the most commonly available at the time or writing, to me the Grammostola spatulata pictured on page 46 made it look as exotic as the Poecilotheria regalis, the Citharischius crawshayi and even the Theraphosa blondi pictured elsewhere in that same book. It made a huge impression on me.

If I wasn't currently tight on space, I would happily attempt this project as both a learning opportunity and the chance a few hundred more "Rosies" to be on the market. Last I heard, Chile will not be opening their doors to exportation anytime soon, and that is truly unfortunate. Of all the various species from Chile, this one is probably the one pretty much everybody took for granted. We're lucky that Mexico developed a breeding program of their native Brachypelma and other species to not only supply the hobby, but also return some of its produced slings into the wild. If only Chile and especially India/Sri Lanka (for the Poecilotheria genus) would take their example.

I can't think of a better species where "underappreciated" suits them more.
Thanx man!
 

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