Can someone help ID?

quirinus · Apr 15, 2022

Looks very much like my pampho sp machala

The Spider House · Apr 15, 2022

quirinus said:
Looks very much like my pampho sp machala

Thank you for reply. That's one that was on the list. There were many other suggestions but rather than sway people, will just see how the thread turns out.
Thanks again

c.h.esteban · Apr 15, 2022

Those obvious brushes of longer setae at the back edge of the carapace does not fit to P sp. MACHALA or any other Pamphobeteus.
As I said before, check it (or let check) if there are stridulatory bristles.

The Spider House · Apr 15, 2022

c.h.esteban said:
Those obvious brushes of longer setae at the back edge of the carapace does not fit to P sp. MACHALA or any other Pamphobeteus.
As I said before, check it (or let check) if there are stridulatory bristles.

May still be too small for those? I certainly can't make any out atm with a) my ageing eyesight or b) with camera I have. It does jump about like a loon when disturbed rather than stridulating so don't know if that helps with any characteristic traits for any specific genus?

c.h.esteban · Apr 15, 2022

No, it is not to small.
You cant see it, because within the Theraphosinae these stridulatory bristles could be located at the Coxa and Trochanter of the leg 1 and 2 or the pedipalps. It needs a examination of an old skin under a microscop.
The presence of such srtidulatory bristles means not that you must automaticly hear any noises (for example the genus Grammostola).

If you have a old skin and need help, you can wirte me a pm.

The Spider House · Apr 15, 2022

c.h.esteban said:
No, it is not to small.
You cant see it, because within the Theraphosinae these stridulatory bristles could be located at the Coxa and Trochanter of the leg 1 and 2 or the pedipalps. It needs a examination of an old skin under a microscop.
The presence of such srtidulatory bristles means not that you must automaticly hear any noises (for example the genus Grammostola).

If you have a old skin and need help, you can wirte me a pm.

Thank you so much. Unfortunately moulted recently and ate it!

Will intercept next time..I have an electronic microscope so will deffo reach out to you.

Thank you very much. Very helpful.

Wolfram1 · Apr 15, 2022

~6" P. sp. machala as a comparison

0.1 Pamphobeteus sp. machala

Wolfram1
Jul 7, 2021
1

finally it didnt bolt, these are hard to get pictures of

~4" P. sp. machala

0.1 Pamphobeteus sp. "machala" ~4"

Wolfram1
Apr 15, 2022
machala pamphobeteus pamphobeteus sp. "machala" sp. "machala"

N5 or N6
old picture, i am just posting it to use as a reference
probably the most vibrant stage...

as you can see P. sp. "machala" look quite different at that size range

I agree with @c.h.esteban that it likely is not a pamphobeteus at all. Though unlike him, i am just going by looks, i am no expert. Do tell us the results, if that is alright.

The Spider House · Apr 15, 2022

Wolfram1 said:
~6" P. sp. machala as a comparison

0.1 Pamphobeteus sp. machala

Wolfram1

Jul 7, 2021

1

finally it didnt bolt, these are hard to get pictures of

~4" P. sp. machala

0.1 Pamphobeteus sp. "machala" ~4"

Wolfram1

Apr 15, 2022

machala pamphobeteus pamphobeteus sp. "machala" sp. "machala"

N5 or N6
old picture, i am just posting it to use as a reference
probably the most vibrant stage...

as you can see P. sp. "machala" look quite different at that size range

I agree with @c.h.esteban that it likely is not a pamphobeteus at all. Though unlike him, i am just going by looks, i am no expert. Do tell us the results, if that is alright.

I will as very interested to find out. Thank you for the reference pics

Wolfram1 · Apr 15, 2022

The more i look at it, the more i think it could be a young Phormictopus cancerides. Who knows.

and a few example pictures i found, these are not mine:

DSCN7881.JPG

Ph. cancerides 0.1

arachnoboards.com

P cancerides

Joung male

arachnoboards.com

The Spider House · Apr 15, 2022

Wolfram1 said:
The more i look at it, the more i think it could be a young Phormictopus cancerides. Who knows.

and a few example pictures i found, these are not mine:

DSCN7881.JPG

Ph. cancerides 0.1

arachnoboards.com

P cancerides

Joung male

arachnoboards.com

Thank you

. From those pics yes there is a lot in common.. P cancerides was another strong contender. I will deffo keep this going and also try and get a salvageable moult nest time so that I can share with @c.h.esteban amongst others.
Thanks again