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I spend a lot of time on bugguide.net and don't know of any other species that looks like Cheiracanthium. Some look similar but still visibly different. You have any examples?
A couple of Clubiona (Clubionidae):I spend a lot of time on bugguide.net and don't know of any other species that looks like Cheiracanthium. Some look similar but still visibly different. You have any examples?
Gotta ask... what evidence do you need to consider it a confirmed bite?ALL Cheiracanthium spp. are cytotoxic, and capable of producing ulcurating sores in humans. The typical manifestation is a very swollen and reddened bump, which may blister. This is typically very sensitive to touch, and stings intensely. Additionally, systemic nausea, chills, and slight fever may be involved (I have seen this in a number of cases, including one case in my own household ).
Have to disagree with you here. Leg I being longer than leg IV immediately tells us the spider belongs to Miturgidae and not Clubionidae. From the Clubiona pics u posted it is clear that leg IV is longer than leg I, ruling out the possibility of it being a Miturgidae.I would question even the genus without better pictures. Cheiracanthium is only a possibility at this point; a good possibility, yes, but not certain without better information (which no one has given).
Yes, at this point I am forced to agree with you. Thanks for the specifics. That was the kind of information I was looking for.Have to disagree with you here. Leg I being longer than leg IV immediately tells us the spider belongs to Miturgidae and not Clubionidae. From the Clubiona pics u posted it is clear that leg IV is longer than leg I, ruling out the possibility of it being a Miturgidae.
Therefore, having said this, i'm 100% sure this is a Miturgidae, most probably a Cheiracanthium sp. I wouldnt go into the species since its impossible to ID different Cheiracanthium species without a very close inspection of the epigyne/pedipalp. Heck, we dont even know the size.
So i'd just stop at Cheiracanthium sp.
graaah you are correct there's one family that isn't i forgot. thanks budhi,
That´s wrong. Not ALL spiders are venomous
I live in Toledo, Ohio.Easy, I have been around this species for a long time and read A LOT about them and even if the pics are fairly small and average quality i'm still 100% sure its c.mildei. Also you can find them almost everywhere in the US and Europe. Only chance i am wrong is if staright8 lives somewhere else than the 2 continents mentioned above!
twograaah you are correct there's one family that isn't i forgot. thanks bud
Thats funny...cause I woke up today having a dream about getting tagged by one of my sicarius. Dreamlike surreal results...nevertheless, a vivid dream.oh, i reinstate my pervious offer:
anyone want to send me sac spiders to venom test? you have to pay shipping though, as i am broke as a bad joke right now
How do you plan to test it?anyone want to send me sac spiders to venom test?
... ... he'll pss a few off tell one tags him. ..then he'll openly ponder his situation.How do you plan to test it?
all the ones i have caught were mellow too. quick, but not inclined to bite. even Seven Yellow Lightning Bolts... who didn't bite even when one of his legs got removed by accident =PHmmm, surprised folks have been bitten by these ... I've caught them many times (by hand) indoors and have never been tagged. I must have happened upon the mellow ones.