CreepyCrawlyCool
Arachnopeon
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As a way to keep visibility high in the enclosure would NeverWet be a good solution, or would it poison whatever I put in there?
Thanks, I have not made the thing yet so I would be able to try that.I honestly don't know. I would think it could cause issues for the inhabitants, then again maybe not. I'm assuming you want it for the glass of the enclosure. I would think if you WERE to try it, you'd have to apply that and let it dry completely before continuing the process of making your vivarium. I don't think adding it after the vivarium is going to work, you wouldn't want that getting on your plants or substrate and effect their ability to absorb moisture. I dunno about what the toxicity/complications would be for any insects that might consume it and from there the effects on anything consuming the insects. I would think that as long as you apply it prior and let it dry and before you set up the vivarium it might work out just fine.
Maybe try it out on a small scale. Make like a 2.5 gallon tank and put it on the walls and see how the plants and microfauna handle it after a couple of months? If they don't fair well then obviously it'd be a no. If they handle it you might get away with it then try housing feeders and see how they respond and if they don't die then I'd think it might be ok?
I'm a newbie though and never worked with the stuff, but that's my thoughts on it.
If I find something that will probably work, I will.*nods* Yeah the only way I see it working is if you applied it prior to making it. Applying it after the fact I think would just kill everything. Should post if it works out or not. I'd love to know, I run into issues with water on the sides of my one 5.5 vivarium, knowing if this will work for future enclosures would be great.
I do not know how I did not see that. Thanks. I'm looking into other hydrophobic coatings now.If your plan is to keep visibility up, nerverwet is not a very good idea according to their FAQ which says it's not recomended to use on glass:
"What are some applications which are not (currently) good for NeverWet?
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Windows/windshields/glasses. This coating will frost your glass"
As far as toxicity goes, it seems to only be the solvent that is dangerous so as long as it has enough time to evaporate completely, it should be safe.
I do not know how I did not see that. Thanks. I'm looking into other hydrophobic coatings now.
I'm not blindly going to do it. In case you have forgotten in the time it took you to read the question and post your response, I am currently looking into whether it would put harmful chemicals into the mix. I am trying to ascertain the risk and whether it would be likely to do harm to the arachnid or the plants within. I have attempted to keep a terrarium before and the plants started dying because they weren't getting enough sun with the water in the way so I wanted to do everything in my power to keep that from happening and as an added bonus it would be more aesthetically pleasing and easy to see the arachnid.Are you putting animals in the viv? If so, why would you risk putting chemicals onto any surface they will come in contact with? Sounds like a bad idea.
I haven't forgotten a thing, you didn't write enough to forget in the entire thread that I wrote, not just your post hahahahaI'm not blindly going to do it. In case you have forgotten in the time it took you to read the question and post your response, I am currently looking into whether it would put harmful chemicals into the mix. I am trying to ascertain the risk and whether it would be likely to do harm to the arachnid or the plants within. I have attempted to keep a terrarium before and the plants started dying because they weren't getting enough sun with the water in the way so I wanted to do everything in my power to keep that from happening and as an added bonus it would be more aesthetically pleasing and easy to see the arachnid.
I am mostly wanting to create environments, so that is why I want plants in there, but ultimately the arachnids would be more important. I was asking on this forum specifically because I figured that I would not be able to find someone who tested it for arachnid safety elsewhere and there was a sliver of a chance that a like-minded individual with more resources than I had already tested it. I do not know if the coating will be necessary and I do not know if the arachnids I am planning on getting even need a high enough humidity to make it worth it. I am just trying to work out the kinks in my hypotheticals.I haven't forgotten a thing, you didn't write enough to forget in the entire thread that I wrote, not just your post hahahaha
Unless it's been tested on arachnids you don't know for sure if it will harm the arachnid or not. So in putting some chemical in there, it's a risk.
It's not impossible to keep plants w/Ts, just not ideal from a husbandry perspective. I know someone that did it quite successfully in a large fish tank, with an automated misting system as well with very large S. American species. His plants grew great, and he didn't need any special coatings on the glass to see his T.
I see what you mean. Honestly, if arachnids are your goal, it's easier to do w/out live plants. But as I mentioned, not impossible. You won't find anyone that has done chemical testing on arachnids because that is not where the research dollars are for arachnid research, nor are they pests.I am mostly wanting to create environments, so that is why I want plants in there, but ultimately the arachnids would be more important. I was asking on this forum specifically because I figured that I would not be able to find someone who tested it for arachnid safety elsewhere and there was a sliver of a chance that a like-minded individual with more resources than I had already tested it. I do not know if the coating will be necessary and I do not know if the arachnids I am planning on getting even need a high enough humidity to make it worth it. I am just trying to work out the kinks in my hypotheticals.
Primarily acetic acid compounds. Many silicone adhesives qualify as 'food processing and storage grade usage' when fully cured. (USDA). IE Non toxic.Silicone uses volatiles as solvent