What are the differences between Homoeomma sp Blue peru vs. Homoeomma sp blue 2 peru?

[Ztesch]

So I have been looking around and I came across Homoeomma sp blue 2 peru on a site for sale. The only problem is they had a pic of the sling and I cant find any pics or vids on the web. I kept coming across Homoeomma sp blue or " Peruvian Pink Zebra." So my question is are these similar looking? Also if you own the species can you show pics?

 

[Thekla]

As far as I know, or at least these are the varieties that are sold hereabouts... H. sp. blue peru 1 and blue peru 2, whereas 1 is a smaller growing, dwarf-ish species, and 2 is growing up to a kinda normal medium size of about 5"-6".

There're a lot of different opinions of what H. sp. blue (peru) really is... like Thrixopelma cyanoleum, lagunas, oh, I don't know... that genus is a mess.

I've got a H. sp. blue peru sling, and no idea what it really is.

Homoeomma sp. blue peru

• Thekla
• Jan 23, 2018
• 4

Freshly moulted and now a bit over 1" :)

 

[Ztesch]

Ya its confusing because from looking online it seems like there is a lot of variation within the same species.

 

[boina]

Homoeomma sp. blue 2, MM (females look the same with shorter legs and no emboli, obviously):



@Thekla

Yours looks suspiciously like a freshly molted T. cyaneolum sling, especially because of the tuft of read hair at the beginning of the abdomen. Blue Peru 2 doesn't have that. The carapax should darken a couple of days after the molt. Compare:

 

[Ztesch]

@boina Nice pic by the way. So is that a H. Blue 2 peru or just H. Blue 2? Or is it the same? Lol you guys are rite this genus is a mess.

 

[boina]

@boina Nice pic by the way. So is that a H. Blue 2 peru or just H. Blue 2? Or is it the same? Lol you guys are rite this genus is a mess.

Blue Peru 2 - I just was too lazy to type it out. I don't think there is a Blue 2.

 

[Thekla]

@Thekla

Yours looks suspiciously like a freshly molted T. cyaneolum sling, especially because of the tuft of read hair at the beginning of the abdomen. Blue Peru 2 doesn't have that. The carapax should darken a couple of days after the molt. Compare:

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Oh, I'd love it to be T. cyanoleum, because that species is actually on my wishlist!

That's my little Jack (I don't know why, but I just suspect it'll turn out male *gg*) today, 2 weeks after moulting.

 

[c.h.esteban]

in the past there was H. sp PERU / BLUE SMALL and H. sp. PERU / BLUE LARGE or only H sp. BLUE .
the H. sp PERU / BLUE SMALL was later described as T cyaneolum.
because the juveniles and younger females of the H. sp PERU / BLUE LARGE had a lot of red hairs at the abdomen an looks a little bit like the adults of T cyaneolum we had a lot of false id´s.

the apenddix "2" was just a try to get a little bit more order in this mess. but it does not works, as we can see now.

in the end, H.sp. PERU BLUE 2 is a Thrixopelma sp. and there should be no differences between them and H. sp. PERU (LARGE) as well the pet trade "lagunas" too.

H. sp PERU BLUE 2
juv.

 

[Ztesch]

https://fearnottarantulas.com/product/homeomma-spec-blue-2-peru-spiderling/
@boina They have it labeled H. Blue 2 Peru 1 on fear not tarantulas. Either way they look pretty cool. I'm thinking about picking one of these guys up.

 

[boina]

So, I was wrong, Blue Peru 2 do have red hair as a juvenile!

@Thekla - sorry. I'm not so sure I'd lable yours cyaneolum anymore .

 

[Thekla]

So, I was wrong, Blue Peru 2 do have red hair as a juvenile!

@Thekla - sorry. I'm not so sure I'd lable yours cyaneolum anymore .

Don't worry. I guess I'll just have to wait and see.

But... $55...?!! :wideyed: I got my 1/2" sling for 9€.

 

[Ztesch]

Ya I don't want to talk about the U.S. prices .

 

[viper69]

I haven't seen a Thrixopelma cyanoleum that looks like this locality in the thread, nor vice versa. I don't believe the H. sp Blue is T. cyan at all

 

[Thekla]

Nice coincidence you resurrected this thread just now, @viper69.

My little H. sp. blue peru 2 "Jack" grew up and became a beautiful Jackie:

Jackie got a new dress!

• Thekla
• Sep 8, 2019
• 9
• female homoeomma homoeomma sp. "blue" sp. "blue"

My 0.1 Homoeomma sp. blue peru finally moulted yesterday after being in premoult for about half...

In comparison, this is my juvenile/sub-adult female T. cyaneolum "Madame de Pompadour":

0.1 T. cyaneolum

• Thekla
• Jul 1, 2019
• 3
• cobalt red rump tarantula cyaneolum female juvenile female thrixopelma thrixopelma cyaneolum

Madame de Pompadour has a new dress and doesn't she look stunning in it?

Now you have a T. cyaneolum in this thread.

 

[Dennis Nedry]

Huge missed opportunity to not call it H. sp blue peru electric boogaloo

 

[c.h.esteban]

I don't believe the H. sp Blue is T. cyan at all

...you are not alone.

T. cyaneolum above
sp. BLUE PERU II below

 

[viper69]

...you are not alone.

T. cyaneolum above
sp. BLUE PERU II below

Are these your pics? I knew they were different.

 

[viper69]

Nice coincidence you resurrected this thread just now, @viper69.

My little H. sp. blue peru 2 "Jack" grew up and became a beautiful Jackie:

Jackie got a new dress!

• Thekla
• Sep 8, 2019
• 9
• female homoeomma homoeomma sp. "blue" sp. "blue"

My 0.1 Homoeomma sp. blue peru finally moulted yesterday after being in premoult for about half...

In comparison, this is my juvenile/sub-adult female T. cyaneolum "Madame de Pompadour":

0.1 T. cyaneolum

• Thekla
• Jul 1, 2019
• 3
• cobalt red rump tarantula cyaneolum female juvenile female thrixopelma thrixopelma cyaneolum

Madame de Pompadour has a new dress and doesn't she look stunning in it?

Now you have a T. cyaneolum in this thread.

I knew it.

The other question is, is blue peru 2, the same as blue peru 1 ?

 

[Thekla]

The other question is, is blue peru 2, the same as blue peru 1 ?

I'm pretty sure, it's not. As I said before when I got my H. sp. blue peru 2 I read/was told that blue peru 1 is a smaller, dwarf-ish species whereas blue peru 2 grows up to a normal size of 5". I believe blue peru 1 is actually T. cyaneolum, but in case of blue peru 2 we'll still have to guess what it actually is until someone describes the species properly and brings light in this mess.

@Tomoran made a nice husbandry video about H. sp. blue peru 2 and talks a bit about the whole mess.

 

[c.h.esteban]

Are these your pics?

yes, otherwise i always name the source.