Unknown trapdoors

[JohnxII]

ID anyone?

Red trapdoor:

Red and black trapdoor with huge fangs:

 

[Draiman]

The second spider is Ancylotrypa.

 

[JohnxII]

Thanks Gavin!

 

[CodeWilster]

I've seen both species labeled as Ancylotrypa, Gorgyrella, or Ctenolophus. Good luck lol. I have pretty much all the trap doors available to the hobby and then some but until I learn the scientific differences between the genera I just label them all Ctenizidae spp. (minus the ones I do know). They may still call the Red one Gorgyrella inermis. Anyway nice spiders! Trap doors are a lot of fun