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Malhavoc's

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spider description:black velvety spider that makes a sort of 'funnel cob web' found under and at ground level normaly in a shaded,secluded areas Also high up in wooden/brick fences.. The web looks like a funnel with trip wires all interlinking slowly coming out for a short distance. Leg structure like that of a black widow but again hairy and velvety instead of shinny and hard. cephlethorax is smooth and almost a brownish black only a tad lighter then the pitch black of the rest of the spider.. Spinderettes located Directly below the abdomen where a black widows 'hour glass' would be. Its spinerette dstructure resembles that of many spiny orb weavers but this is not an orb weaving spider

Problem: I have caught a few of these spiders always resorting in slow death. I provide them with the same scenero/attire that I collected them from. I offer food and water daily yet Most of them refuse to web at all. I have had one in an enclosure with 6 inches of substrate [gathered from where it was collected] And with many more aboreal hide outs made of cork bark. It still refuses to web. It appears to be an adult female and has lost a great amount of weight since Capture.. I am determined to get an id on this spider and or raise it in captivity considering how neat I find them..Any suggestions would be appreciated

Additional note: This is a very mean spider. It rivals a Hapalopelma [spelling] in defencive poses and snaps at the slightest thing but seems a little bit clumsy [probably from no webbing] This spider has been in captivity for nearly 2 months now.. with no progress at it eating.. I sold its sibbling which had constructed a cob web and ate a few flys and even molted awhile ago but it died shortly after arriving at its destination. They are pretty much equal in leg span to a black widow.. I have yet to get bit by one so I can't tell you what the toxicity is like..

{sorry staff I posted this in wrong forum can you move it please?]
 

conway

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a PIC! it would help i was thinking...funnel web spider - haha get it? makes a funnel WEB lol well anyway i don think they "harbour" in CA, but if you can get a pic then we would be able to identify it :)
 

Malhavoc's

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Sure I can get a pic and it will look liek this.. A black spider.. I don't hgave the best of photo equipment..send me yours ;)
 

Wade

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It sounds like it might be a "crevice spider", possibly the genus Kukulcania. If you do a search, you might have better luck seaching the genus name Filistata, the old name (fairly recent change).

Wade
 

Malhavoc's

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?When will they move this thread? lol
I've narrowed it down to four results.
Kukulcania arizonica
Kukulcania geophila
Kukulcania utahana
Kukulcania hibernalis

But I can't seem to find Pix..
closet I have come is the Kukulcania (Filistata) hibernalis but, The picture seems to be black and white so I can't tell if it fits the spider I have. most descriptions I have come accross says its charcol grey.. this thing is black but body structue wise its a identical match..
 
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