scorpions ID, please !

[frajer29]

Hello. Please identify these scorpions .... And whether the two may belong to the same species!


First scorpion: it is about 4-4.5 inches long, I do not know which molt. Please specify gender:

http://i49.tinypic.com/63rt55.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/11m6jax.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/dxenmo.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/711k7q.jpg


Second Scorpion: is about 2 inches long, probably 4 molt, the seller can not determine gender, so the eye is about 18-19 teeth on pectins. Please specify gender:

http://i49.tinypic.com/o71ptt.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/k04pc0.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/1zexsfr.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/10fuk9t.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/20to76s.jpg


Can I combine these scorpions and stick in a terrarium? If it turns out that this one species, it can hold together? Note that both scorpions are of different ages

 

[rasputin]

sp. 1) Opisthacanthus rugiceps

sp. 2) ??? I need better pix to ID it but it might be the same, I would have to see better pix with detail to them first.

Don't combine them until you get full confirmation on the ID and any detail from someone who has kept them. This is a rare species in the hobby so there's not much about them out there. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance this morning.

 

[frajer29]

I understand. I hope that someone else will tell what kind of genre. Because Apparently these two species are Opisthacanthus Rugiceps. But Im not sure, and therefore ask You for identification.

Maybe I will try to arrange more photos from the Seller.

But it is theoretically ask!? :
Or if it appears that these two scorpions belong to one species, it can be kept in a terrarium, despite the age difference?

 

[rasputin]

That species in know to be able to maintained communally.

I wish I could tell you more. If Luc swings by the thread, he might be able to help because of a comment he made 2yrs ago - I might be wrong on this - Luc, don't think I'm holding you to this.

 

[frajer29]

But by analyzing these images, does not state that the scorpion of the photos that E. italicus? Because few people at these photos I identified the scorpion. I am also very confused, I do not know ....


I hope this proves to be a scorpion with 2 photos, O. Rugieps:wall: :worship:


But he did not suggest that!

 

[rasputin]

Ahem:

In Polish: http://terrarystyka.pl/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=148&topic=60648.0

In English: http://translate.google.com/transla...x.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=148&topic=60648.0

What's this if you didn't know what you MIGHT buy?: http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=167722

 

[rasputin]

I assure you that it's not E. italicus

 

[frajer29]

OK, I will try to arrange more photos from the Seller

 

[rasputin]

:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:​

 

[frajer29]

Ahem:

In Polish: http://terrarystyka.pl/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=148&topic=60648.0

In English: http://translate.google.com/transla...x.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=148&topic=60648.0

What's this if you didn't know what you MIGHT buy?: http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=167722

As for the scorpion to the forums, so it is the scorpion. From the seller that I bought a female O. Rugiceps.

Therefore made use of this photo ... And I ask, because Im not sure what the species, each vendor can write what he winding.

 

[rasputin]

Yeah, if a vendor can't confirm the species then I don't buy from them.

 

[frajer29]

That means you know I meant is that every vendor can push us to lie. Just in my case was so that the seller gave the scorpion as O. Rugiceps, but he was not sure of gender. And as you can see from the photo, is all good. This is O. Rugiceps . That is the case with photo first be solved


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Now the question such as what a scorpion is the image number 2.The whole time I hope that this scorpion (photo 2) it is the same species as the image 1

 

[rasputin]

Hah! I just realized that the pix weren't full size and I could zoom in...sp. #2 is not the same as #1 and, as a matter of fact, fits the description of Euscorpius italicus. How about that, the people guessing wherever you had them guessing were right about #2 if that's the one they were referencing when you mentioned it earlier. Don't waste your money. The dead giveaway is that O. rugiceps has that triangle on it's head and E. italicus does not, among other key features.

 

[frajer29]

So I understand that the scorpion number 2 is not, however, O. Rugiceps. However, no risk and refrain from buying?

 

[rasputin]

So I understand that the scorpion number 2 is not, however, O. Rugiceps. However, no risk and refrain from buying?

sp. #2 is NOT O. rugiceps, it is most definitely Euscorpius and most likely Euscorpius italicus.

 

[frajer29]

sp. #2 is NOT O. rugiceps, it is most definitely Euscorpius and most likely Euscorpius italicus.

Rasputin, you know what - a few people, however, indicates that the scorpion is the image of the second - Opisthacanthus Rugiceps

Compare the two and scorpions (O. Rugiceps vs. E. italicus) anatomy - chela metasoma, and vesicle / aculeus .

However, differ slightly and it seems to me that the picture number 2 is not an E. italicus

 

[rasputin]

I don't have an ID key for them but the following photos will help with what I referred to as a "dead giveaway" - look at their heads and note the markings.

Opisthacanthus rugiceps:

Euscorpius italicus:

 

[frajer29]

It seems to me that the scorpion with my pictures http://i48.tinypic.com/k04pc0.jpg .... This, however, another building, and the pliers in my photo seems to be flattened, that is something Hemiscorpiidae ....
I do not know, I have this experience - with the rest of it is so few people have written .... E. Italicus is even more rounded pliers and no rough surface and ....O. Rugiceps is elongated claw of a rough surface