Friend sent me a E. murinus for Christmas, received a hooked out MM

auskie

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Just a heads up for those that aren't aware, you probably shouldn't order anything from <edit>. I still love it, but they advertised it as female with the stipulation "no guarantees". They obviously didn't even look at it then lol. Here's a picture of the cutie

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awiec

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Just a heads up for those that aren't aware, you probably shouldn't order anything from <edit>. I still love it, but they advertised it as female with the stipulation "no guarantees". They obviously didn't even look at it then lol. Here's a picture of the cutie

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probably should put this in the their review section, some people have had good reviews but there is a size-able number of bad reviews. They are a drop shipper so the company doesn't actually see the animals they sell you, they have sellers that send you the animal which may or may not be kept questionably. Though I would suggest sending him off to meet some ladies, at least that way you have a chance to get some baby E.murinus.
 
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You know what, I was skeptical too. It was climbing around on the top of the enclosure and has foot pads like an aborial..

What the hell is it then
 

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Well e murinus have arboreal looking legs in the front but the abdomen looks like it has chevrons and a grey carapace and e murinus don't have chevrons and have a cream colored carapace. It looks almost like a h albostriatum
 

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You can't always judge by that, though. E. murinus is built much like an arboreal as well.


Yes.
+1 behavior isnt always a way to tell arboreal from terestrial. Many arboreals will actually burrow in captivity. Avics usually are an exception.

If it is albostriatum, watch your fingers. You'll end up with a nasty OW bite you weren't expecting.
 

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Its terribly irresponsible as it is for someone to sell/ship the wrong species....but even worse, an OW species under the false impression that its a less potent NW. Especially if the recipient doesn't recognize what they have.
 

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I agree. And I'm pretty sure albostriatum are quite defensive. Luckily e murinus is a highly defensive NW so watching your fingers should already be a given but still. That's horrible mixing up NW and OW.
 

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That isn't even an E. murinus...
Ha I didn't even look at the picture, that looks like a haplo to me. Which along with not being a female, the wrong species was sent and is now possibly a useless male who if an Id cannot be 100%
 

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Well e murinus have arboreal looking legs in the front but the abdomen looks like it has chevrons and a grey carapace and e murinus don't have chevrons and have a cream colored carapace. It looks almost like a h albostriatum
+1, I also wanted to say that looks like an H. Albostriatum. That's defenitely not P. Murinus..

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I agree. And I'm pretty sure albostriatum are quite defensive. Luckily e murinus is a highly defensive NW so watching your fingers should already be a given but still. That's horrible mixing up NW and OW.
isn't P. Murinus an OW semi-aboreal african specie? OBT right? Or am I missing something?

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And for H. Albostriatum, isn't it worth more than P. Murinus? If you could get a definite ID on this one you can send him of to some females.

Edit: sorry, I read P. Murinus and not E. Murinus, sorry!!! My bad lol.
 
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+1, I also wanted to say that looks like an H. Albostriatum. That's defenitely not P. Murinus..

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isn't P. Murinus an OW semi-aboreal african specie? OBT right? Or am I missing something?

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And for H. Albostriatum, isn't it worth more than P. Murinus? If you could get a definite ID on this one you can send him of to some females.

Edit: sorry, I read P. Murinus and not E. Murinus, sorry!!! My bad lol.
Albostriatum was just a guess. It could be a couple different halpos.

To the OP, I believe care for both is similar but I don't keep any halpos right now, just e murinus, so I'd start doing some research on halps if you don't have them.
 

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Albostriatum was just a guess. It could be a couple different halpos.

To the OP, I believe care for both is similar but I don't keep any halpos right now, just e murinus, so I'd start doing some research on halps if you don't have them.
+ 1 I agree..
 

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...i don't see anything in that pic that makes me think it is anything but a MM E murinus. Mature males are quite a bit different looking than females.
 

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...i don't see anything in that pic that makes me think it is anything but a MM E murinus. Mature males are quite a bit different looking than females.
The Ephebopus murinus doesn't look like that. The carapace and trademark chevron on the abdomen give it away. E murinus has a mostly all black abdomen regardless of gender.
 

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No. I've had a few MM E murinus that *did* look like that. A quick search of breeding pics and videos also back that up.
 

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No. I've had a few MM E murinus that *did* look like that. A quick search of breeding pics and videos also back that up.
I guess I'll have to agree with you by default since I have never owned a MM E murinus. But I have never seen a picture of one that did look like that.

Still, pretty shady business practice.
 

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That is certainly a Haplopelma male. E. murinus legs are a bit fluffier, and they don't have the tiger stripe chevron marking on the abdomen that spiders has.

Later, Tom
 

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Well my guess is that its e.murinus..If we want to find out for sure the op has to describe to us or get a pic of the tibial spurs..h.albostriatum doesn't have them..when the male matures the area where the "hook" would be becomes longer and looks square,there is nothing hookish about it..e.murinus has a more spur like hook.. To a beginner it can be hard to tell the difference but if it has your more typical looking hook its murinus..take pics or let us know.
 
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