b.smithi or b.hamorii

[mike054]

im really confused right now.. i've read some articles that b.smithi is now b.hamorii. but someone told me that b.smithi and b.hamorii are two different species.. is b.smithi still there? badly needs some clear answers..

 

[Sarkhan42]

Yes, both are valid species. B. smithi now is what previously had been labeled in the hobby as B. annitha, at least to my understanding. What we previously called B. smithi should be B. hamorii.

 

[nicodimus22]

Recently, B. smithi was changed to B. hamorii, and B. annitha was changed to B. smithi.

 

[Sarkhan42]

B. hamorii had actually already existed, it was just discovered that the original description of smithi was of a specimen of hamorii. Confusing, I know, but the general gist is what I stated in my first post.

 

[BoyFromLA]

ex B. smithi is now B. hamorii.

ex B. annitha is now B. smithi.

• @nicodimus22, @Sarkhan42, you guys are just too fast...

 

[mike054]

so b.annitha is no more? calling @cold blood

 

[Sarkhan42]

so b.annitha is no more?

Yes, correct, its considered a junior synonym of smithi now.

 

[mike054]

Yes, correct, its considered a junior synonym of smithi now.

may i know your source? pls

 

[BoyFromLA]

may i know your source? pls

Would this be helpful?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/tomsbi...ii-a-breakdown-of-the-taxonomic-revision/amp/

 

[Sarkhan42]

may i know your source? pls

http://www.publish.csiro.au/is/is16023 edit: fixed <---- The paper itself. What BoyFromLA posted is definitely more easily digested and has some good discussion, Tom is an awesome guy.

 

[McGruder]

@mike054, thanks for putting this question up. I've been confused about this issue as well, and it's good to have some answers.

 

[Rittdk01]

I just know I own two female Mexican red knees. Too confusing and goofy to name change the most famous tarantula. Like making Jordan change his name to Bird.

 

[Mjb30]

I just know I own two female Mexican red knees. Too confusing and goofy to name change the most famous tarantula. Like making Jordan change his name to Bird.

Science isn't meant to be easy, this change has been to correct taxonomic errors of the past.

 

[Toddydog]

I just found this out not too long ago. Told someone I had a Smithi and they told me it was a Hamorii. So I was like okay, I have a Hamorii now. But reciently I was told he looks more like a true Smithi and yeah. Essntially it's confusing but here's my Smithi (mostly because I love showing off pictures of him). As you can sort of tell through the really shitty photo he has more orange on his top part where as hamorii's have more black. Here's a picture someone showed me showing the differences.
Note the annitha = smithi and the Smithi = hamorii.

 

[metallica]

Please do not use carapac color for identifying Brachypelma species. This is not a stable character. Around the typesite of B. smithi you can also find populations with beautiful full black carapac. I would suggeste using the leg markings and bulbus form. For examples see: http://www.mantid.nl/tarantula/smithi.html http://www.mantid.nl/tarantula/hamorii.html and http://www.mantid.nl/tarantula/sidebyside.html