Avic Avic MM?

[RileyT]

Hello everyone,

Ive been looking to see if I could use one of the threads on here from before to see if my avic avic mm, I rescued him/her from petshop about 2 months or more ago. Of course they said hes a juvi plenty of time with him... now not so sure. Heres a picture of it also I was watching one of RobC’s older videos where his son got his new avic avic after Tonka died and anyway as soon as Rob saw it he said oh yeah hes a mm, but he never said how he knew. Mine looks exactly like the one on video heres picture. Thank you all. Sorry pictures not so good Ill try to get better.

 

[dangerforceidle]

Not a mature male. Male Avicularia will lose the "pink toes" on their pedipalps as they mature. The palps develop a structure called emboli used for inserting sperm into a female during mating, and this structure causes the pedipalp tip shape to change. With the shape change, the pink tips are lost. Since yours has pink toes on its palps still, it is a juvenile male or female.

 

[RileyT]

Not a mature male. Male Avicularia will lose the "pink toes" on their pedipalps as they mature. The palps develop a structure called emboli used for inserting sperm into a female during mating, and this structure causes the pedipalp tip shape to change. With the shape change, the pink tips are lost. Since yours has pink toes on its palps still, it is a juvenile male or female.

Thank you so very much what a relief, this guy or girl is absolutely the sweetest and I really wanted some time with him. Thank you and I learned something new again. I love this board. Have an awesome day!!!

 

[Theneil]

NOT a mature male.

Pedipalps haven't developed the emboli. Also if it was mature it would also have hooks on the front pair of legs.

 

[14pokies]

Your spider appears to be former A.metallica now A. avic"morphotype#6" so yes it's A.avic but a larger locality variation. The care is all the same they just attain larger sizes and have a different color scheme.. It's dubious getting a proper ID of closely related Avicularia species through pics but to my eye under the lighting in your pic it looks like "metallica"

If that was a male A.avic at that size it would be mature.. A.metallica do mature at larger sizes generally so it could still be a male.. Either way it's not a Mature male..They are easy to vent sex though. Get a nice clear shot of the underside and we can sex it for you easily enough.

 

[cold blood]

Your spider appears to be former A.metallica

If that were the case, it would have a black rump...the common A. avic would have the reddish hairs on the rump...which is what I see here.

 

[14pokies]

If that were the case, it would have a black rump...the common A. avic would have the reddish hairs on the rump...which is what I see here.

I don't see a red butt at all.. I see a bluish black spider covered in fuzzy white tipped hairs.. To me the hairs bordering the abdomen close to the pedicel look white like my A. mets.

My vision is sketchy so I could be wrong. Lighting and the angle of light source can play a big role, that's why I mentioned that nailing an ID on Avics by pics is sometimes dubious..

I still think I'm right but whatevs ..

 

[boina]

I think you may want to read about Avicularia care on here... It looks as if you have been spraying the enclosure and what I can see of ventilation holes in the plastic tub seems not enough by far. Avics do much better when kept in a completely dry environment with only a water dish. Spraying to keep 'humidity' up together with little ventilation spells certain desaster.

 

[RileyT]

I think you may want to read about Avicularia care on here... It looks as if you have been spraying the enclosure and what I can see of ventilation holes in the plastic tub seems not enough by far. Avics do much better when kept in a completely dry environment with only a water dish. Spraying to keep 'humidity' up together with little ventilation spells certain desaster.

Thank you, I actually did read on their care here. The enclosure is dry I spray every 4 days and he/she has webbed comes to greet me is actually a pretty cool little personality, seems pretty content. Thank you though. I have done the most research on the avocado especially now, definitely my favorite.

I don't see a red butt at all.. I see a bluish black spider covered in fuzzy white tipped hairs.. To me the hairs bordering the abdomen close to the pedicel look white like my A. mets.

My vision is sketchy so I could be wrong. Lighting and the angle of light source can play a big role, that's why I mentioned that nailing an ID on Avics by pics is sometimes dubious..

I still think I'm right but whatevs ..

Thank you both for your replies that's interesting about the Natalia's

Your spider appears to be former A.metallica now A. avic"morphotype#6" so yes it's A.avic but a larger locality variation. The care is all the same they just attain larger sizes and have a different color scheme.. It's dubious getting a proper ID of closely related Avicularia species through pics but to my eye under the lighting in your pic it looks like "metallica"

If that was a male A.avic at that size it would be mature.. A.metallica do mature at larger sizes generally so it could still be a male.. Either way it's not a Mature male..They are easy to vent sex though. Get a nice clear shot of the underside and we can sex it for you easily enough.

I'll absolutely get an underside shot that is really interesting. Thank you guys will post pictures briefly.

 

[Andrea82]

Thank you, I actually did read on their care here. The enclosure is dry I spray every 4 days and he/she has webbed comes to greet me is actually a pretty cool little personality, seems pretty content. Thank you though. I have done the most research on the avocado especially now, definitely my favorite.

Thank you both for your replies that's interesting about the Natalia's

I'll absolutely get an underside shot that is really interesting. Thank you guys will post pictures briefly.

The Autocorrect was strong today...

Research on avocados...never knew that was relevant for Theraphosidae keeping...

Never heard of an Avicularia species called Natalia

 

[RileyT]

The Autocorrect was strong today...

Research on avocados...never knew that was relevant for Theraphosidae keeping...

Never heard of an Avicularia species called Natalia

Lol I'm so sorry when I'm at work I post sometimes without reviewing it.

 

[Andrea82]

Lol I'm so sorry when I'm at work I post sometimes without reviewing it.

Don't be sorry, i had laugh because of it

 

[RileyT]

Don't be sorry, i had laugh because of it

A laugh is always good. By the way do you or anyone by chance have any tips on what to feed my little 1/8 in Euathlus sp red? He hasn't eaten in awhile I know that they can fast and are very slow growing and can be picky on what they eat. Any suggestions? These are what I've tried pieces of crickets, meal worms (cut up) of course, fruit flies, cut up wax worm he will maybe just look at the meal worm lol his little abdomen all be it tiny is not tiny like unhealthy and he's the most active little T I have lol any advice?

 

[Andrea82]

A laugh is always good. By the way do you or anyone by chance have any tips on what to feed my little 1/8 in Euathlus sp red? He hasn't eaten in awhile I know that they can fast and are very slow growing and can be picky on what they eat. Any suggestions? These are what I've tried pieces of crickets, meal worms (cut up) of course, fruit flies, cut up wax worm he will maybe just look at the meal worm lol his little abdomen all be it tiny is not tiny like unhealthy and he's the most active little T I have lol any advice?

They can be picky eaters. As long as its waterdish is full and its abdomen nice and roundish, i wouldn't worry. Just leave a piece of mealworm overnight, they are shy sometimes as well.

 

[CEC]

If that were the case, it would have a black rump...the common A. avic would have the reddish hairs on the rump...which is what I see here.

The OP is M#6. Here's mine to compare:

I still think I'm right but whatevs ..

You're right. No doubt

 

[RileyT]

They can be picky eaters. As long as its waterdish is full and its abdomen nice and roundish, i wouldn't worry. Just leave a piece of mealworm overnight, they are shy sometimes as well.

Awesome, it's done. Just hung out with him awhile damn, who knew a tiny spider could mean so much. He's so cute lol thanks again

The OP is M#6. Here's mine to compare:

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You're right. No doubt

Wow, Caleb is identical to that tarantula. I think Caleb is premolt so after he molts I'll take a picture like this one and compare. I can't believe the resemblance.