Thanks Guys. THis was one of my number one species to find. They are supposed to be very hard to find. I knew you would like this one Apple. THis spider is only a juvie. They are supposed to get quite large.... 5" legspan or so. As for keeping Aussie natives..... Most species can't even be kept by the Aussies. They are very strict here. Most of the native stuff here got into the hobby illegaly. Would be nice if some of these other mygalomorphs from Aussie made it into the hobby. Most of them are far nicer looking than the Aussie tarantulas.I find it painfully ironic that aussie hobbyists can't have the more commonly-kept/bred species of herps/inverts that we have, and at the same time we can't have many of the more unique species of herps/inverts that they have in their relative vicinity.
Nice find; hopefully someone finds a way to legalize some of the aussie animals for the pet trade.
No kidding. Sort of looks like Caterpillar<tm> designed the log loader from this guy!Wow, look at those chelicerae!
Tarantulas are in the infra-order Mygalomorphae, just FYI.Geez, that thing is intense. Never been too interested in mygalomorphs until now!
Tarantulas are in the infra-order Mygalomorphae, just FYI.
Your in WA? The funnel-webs you see in WA that are big belong to the family Agelenidae, in the infra-order Araneomorphae.Gotcha. I have never been too clear on all the infra-order stuff, and since I always see funnel-webs and the like just referred to as mygalomorphs I lazily assumed that it was some sort of classification that excluded tarantulas. I amend my statement to the now (hopefully) correct:
Never been too interested in non-tarantula mygalomorphs until now!
Interesting. I wasn't aware that hobo spiders are referred to as funnel-webs, though I guess it makes sense. I just mean that my original confusion about the nomenclature stemmed from references (like the title of this thread, for instance) to mygalomorphs that are obviously not tarantulas, which made me think that a mygalomorph was something completely different. Thanks for the explanation!Your in WA? The funnel-webs you see in WA that are big belong to the family Agelenidae, in the infra-order Araneomorphae.
They're plagued by invasive species such as the Cain Toad and Feral Cat, that's most likely why they're so strict on hobbyists having foreign species. The camels may have incorporated themselves into Australia without any damaging side effects, but the other species have caused some pretty wide spread devastation to the ecosystem. One just has to look at Flordia for a pretty good example of why one might want to do this with their country, I mean...we now have exotic constrictors and Giant King Cobras making our heated states their new breeding grounds due to having escaped enclosures into ideal circumstances.I find it painfully ironic that aussie hobbyists can't have the more commonly-kept/bred species of herps/inverts that we have, and at the same time we can't have many of the more unique species of herps/inverts that they have in their relative vicinity.
Nice find; hopefully someone finds a way to legalize some of the aussie animals for the pet trade.
A majority of invasive animal species didn't get there due to the hobby. Florida is an expetion and a freak situation. Australia has some very rare ecosystem and very unique, endemic flora and fauna. Yes, they want to protect that ecosystem from invasive species, pathogens, etc..... The cane toad, feral cats, feral dogs, camels, fire ants, etc are all non native, invasive species brought here by the government.... Not by hobbyists. Its funny how the biggest invasive species are typically brought in by the government (F&W) or agriculture, overseas trading, etc and NOT by the hobby. The hobby has contributed to VERY LITTLE invasive species populating an area....... That is, with exception of Florida While I do see Australias desire not to become the next Florida, I don't see why they have to be as strict as they are. There are MANY species that, if got loose, would not survive in ANY habitat that Australia has to offer... I find it strange that axolotls are legal here. There are perfect eco-nitches here they would happily fill..... But, I guess thats just the way it is hey....They're plagued by invasive species such as the Cain Toad and Feral Cat, that's most likely why they're so strict on hobbyists having foreign species. The camels may have incorporated themselves into Australia without any damaging side effects, but the other species have caused some pretty wide spread devastation to the ecosystem. One just has to look at Flordia for a pretty good example of why one might want to do this with their country, I mean...we now have exotic constrictors and Giant King Cobras making our heated states their new breeding grounds due to having escaped enclosures into ideal circumstances.
I, for one, wasn't shocked that the constrictors made out well upon escape...but I never even thought about the King Cobras, of which have been found breeding upon their escape. With such ideal conditions...we may have some extremely large, and dangerous, serpents out and about...not that I, personally, mind due to my adoration of snakes...but they may cause some pretty devastating results on an already delicate Everglade ecosystem. Hopefully, like the Camels in Aussi, they incorperate well here without causing too much damage...and find themselves a nice little niche alongside everything else. I'd love to see how King Cobras adapt to our country...
Well,A majority of invasive animal species didn't get there due to the hobby. Florida is an expetion and a freak situation. Australia has some very rare ecosystem and very unique, endemic flora and fauna. Yes, they want to protect that ecosystem from invasive species, pathogens, etc..... The cane toad, feral cats, feral dogs, camels, fire ants, etc are all non native, invasive species brought here by the government.... Not by hobbyists. Its funny how the biggest invasive species are typically brought in by the government (F&W) or agriculture, overseas trading, etc and NOT by the hobby. The hobby has contributed to VERY LITTLE invasive species populating an area....... That is, with exception of Florida While I do see Australias desire not to become the next Florida, I don't see why they have to be as strict as they are. There are MANY species that, if got loose, would not survive in ANY habitat that Australia has to offer... I find it strange that axolotls are legal here. There are perfect eco-nitches here they would happily fill..... But, I guess thats just the way it is hey....