Unusual mite problem

[CID143ti]

This may have nothing to do with it but it came to mind when I saw that you feed them frozen mice. I recently took a snake to my vet and had a fecal culture done. We found both mite eggs and dead mites in the stool. My vet remarked that they didn't look like reptile mites and since the snake didn't have mites the best conclusion he came up with was that the mites were coming from the frozen mice. The stool was collected by palpating the snake...so it's likely that there was no contamination. Although this was not the problem with the snake it was really interesting to see under the scope. Sadly, I don't have any pics but it might be something to check into.

W. Smith

 

[Galapoheros]

Hmm, this is getting really strange. Wish you had one of those PC microscopes Rob, but you spent all the money on those pedes!

 

[beetleman]

hmmm.........hardwicki mites i think i'm getting something..........

 

[Satellite Rob]

Hi Pete,
Can you see if you can get those pictures sent to me. satelliterob5@aol.com

 

[Galapoheros]

You getting some mites beetleman, are they coming with pedes? I'm looking for those mites then too.

 

[Satellite Rob]

Here are some better pictures.But you have to go to the bottom right side of
your screen and magnify 200% or 400%.

 

[Galapoheros]

Interesting, I feel like I've seen that before. We can't zoom in anymore though on this site like you prob can at the site where you loaded the pics. What do the mites look like? So you say if you put that doo doo on moist paper you see mites hatch out of those?

You can load a pic straight to this site in it's original size if you want. After you click "post reply", there is a small paper clip at the top of the box you type in and to the right of a smilie face, you can click on that, a browse box comes up to find the pic on your computer, you can click that and load a pic that way at any size. I know sounds complicated at first and don't know if I explained it right anyway.

 

[Satellite Rob]

I've hatched them out already.Thay are a cream colored mite.There body is
lemom shaped.I can see see the head,legs and spinnerets.I have to use a microscope
to see this.But thay are definitely mites and thay look like your common mite.
That all T and pede keepers see all the time.I think this is alot more common
than anybody thinks.But nobody takes the time to look.I can't be the only one
that has a microscope.It you have a microscorp take a look at any pede fresh
pede frass.It doesn't have to be a Harwickei.You just might be surprized.

 

[Galapoheros]

I plan on getting one of those PC microscopes, I think they are $100 to $200. I think I'd like messing around with it if I bought one. It hooks up right to your PC. You can take pics and look at the stuff live on your PC screen, sounds pretty cool!

 

[skips]

any way you can put these aside and let them hatch out to make sure they are mites?

i know you said you see the eggs and then the mites come but i don't think any mites can be an internal thing. IMO i think the mites are living in the soil and are eating the frass.

it would be interesting to hatch these out in a sterile container.

i have millis and i will check their feces. i have seen similar mites.

I was also under the impression that mites were purely external, but i've posted a reference on this thread and here's another stating otherwise. At this point I dont know how they could not be endoparasitic mites. I'm going to visit my zoo in the next couple days. Our bug people are phenomenal. Maybe they'd have a comment.

http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2008/f/z01951p152f.pdf

 

[meso]

any way you can put these aside and let them hatch out to make sure they are mites?

i know you said you see the eggs and then the mites come but i don't think any mites can be an internal thing. IMO i think the mites are living in the soil and are eating the frass.

it would be interesting to hatch these out in a sterile container.

i have millis and i will check their feces. i have seen similar mites.

Hello!
If I understood right, on pics are only eggs of those mites ? Could You get some picture of mites as well ?
Well, for the vertabrates are lots of endoparasitic mites, that's right.

 

[Satellite Rob]

Hi skips,
I've been keeping 5 of my 12 S.Hardwickei's bone dry paper towels for more
than a month.Every frass i've checked under a microscope for more than a
month has mite eggs on them.None of the frass samples had a single live mite
on any of them since I move them to sterile containers. Everbody wants to
dismiss my claims do to environmental contamination.No one wants to consider
I might be right.Well i've been keeping my experiment a sterile as humanly
possibly under home conditions.Now I feel I have the proof to back my claims.
I've already hatched out my frass samples and produced mites.I have 4 more
frass cultures and thay should be hatching out in the next couple days.I have
not seem a mite in over a month.But I still have eggs in every frass I check.
If there are no mites in there containers.Where are these eggs coming from.
I've been checking there containers daily with a strong magnafing glass and
not found a single mite in more than a month.Since I started this project.
I've been cleaning there containers with a 5% bleach and water solution daily
I also been keeping S.Hardwickei's on dry paper towel and changing it daily.
Well now I fell I have the proof and i'm willing to back it.I would be willing to
send 1 of my S.Hardwickei's to anyone who is qualified to document this and
share there findings with me.I don't want to share in the credit.I just want
you to share your findings with me.There would be 2 things I need before I
ship the animals.

1-Proof that you are qualified to do this experiment.
2-Proof that you can provide a sterile environment to do this experiment
properly.I would prefer a zoo or university.But any qualified person would be
considered.

Well the offer is out there.Do we have any takers.

 

[SAn]

I doubt those are mite eggs. Some kind of fungus maybe. I have those on the pede feces in every pede enclosure but they never turn to be mites.
Its harmful mites only if they go all over on your inverts.

You ll probably end up killing the pedes if you worry so much.

 

[Elytra and Antenna]

Hi skips,
Everbody wants to
dismiss my claims do to environmental contamination.No one wants to consider
I might be right.

It just doesn't make much sense. Where are these big female mites laying all these eggs? Inside your centipedes? They used to think maggots came from rotting meat (rather than fly eggs).

 

[Satellite Rob]

Hi SAn,
I'm sorry to say you wrong and you don't know what your talking about.I
already proved to my friends and people that matter to me.Thay are eggs
and if you would look at them under a microscope you would see that.If you
look at 2 post on this thread.The post were made on 08-05-2009.The first
post was by presurcukr at 8:39 PM and the other post was by Beetleman
on the same day at 9:56 PM.Thay were 100% sure thay were looking at some
kind of eggs.I've already hatched out 6 cultures of mites and I have 4 more
cultures that will hatch out in a couple of days.That day a couple of other
people witnessed the eggs.But thay chose not to post.Because of people like
you.People like you who look at a simple picture and think thay know more.By
the way I found 6 other reports of people reporting the same thing.So maybe
you should do a little investigating before you post.Now i've showed a dozen
different people my research and convinced them all.If you had a microscope
I would happy to send you a frass.This way you could have something to
base your opinion on.I have proof to convince anyone.But I need to show them
in person.This way I can show my Hardwickei's,records and precedures.There
is 1 thing I can guarantee.If S.Hardwickei's have this parasite.There are alot
more Asian centipedes that have the same mite and if people take the time
to look at there frass under a microscope thay will find the eggs too.This is
not isolated incident.

 

[SAn]

ok i am wrong.
Aliens throw mites in your everyday clean enclosures.

Must be pure air parthenogenesis. You ll be famous.

( and no i dont want you to send me pede shit. Keep them )

 

[Satellite Rob]

Hi Elytra and Antenna,
I'm the first to admit it.It doesn't make any sence.But I can't get alround my
research.I would be glad to send you one.So you can see for your self.This
way you can do your own research.All I can tell you is that I sterilize there
containers with a 5% bleach and water solution daily and I change the dry
paper towels in there containers daily.Still every frass thay drop has eggs in
it.I've never found a live mite on any of there fresh frass.But all my frass
cultures hatch mites.I'm offering you a chance to see it your self.The only
condition is you return the hardwickei when your done.This way you can
learn about S.Hardwickei and take a bunch of pictures.There a the best
pedes I own and very easy to care for.If you want to talk about this PM me.

 

[Satellite Rob]

Hay San,
You are right about 1 thing.I'm sorry for that last post.You are entitled to your own opinion.

 

[SAn]

WOW!! You work under a dealer so you are a pro at smuggling hardwickei eh?

It must be a fantastic job to pick up pede shit every day and analyze them
I am sure you know a whole crap more than me

:worship: :worship: :worship:

 

[skips]

do I smell pissing contest? Keep it civil. What do you care if he's right or wrong?