Unknown species from Socotra Island

[surfer]

Who can identify this species??¨

 

[FryLock]

A stab in the dark of Atrophothele? if it's from Socotra, does not look like a Theraphosidae anyway.

 

[surfer]

??Barychelidae family??

A stab in the dark of Atrophothele? if it's from Socotra, does not look like a Theraphosidae anyway.

This spider is 100% from Socotra. I think he is 4 lungs spider. He has 2 quite big tibial hooks and chelicera lie parallel to the body and spinnerets are reduced. But I do not know neither family

 

[T.Raab]

Hi,

my first guess would be also a Barychelidae.

 

[Ingo]

Hi,
my first guess would be Migidae, as Platnicks mentions Moggridgea socotra. I cannot see scopulae in Metatarsi or Tarsi which should be present if it's a Barychelid. But it's a dead male in alcohol, maybe that makes a difference....
A third claw seems to be present as well (even a fourth one ;-)), another character that would exclude Barychelidae....
Regards
Ingo

 

[Steve Nunn]

Hi,
Not Theraphosidae or Barychelidae, as Ingo pointed out no claw tufts, however there might be some tarsal scopula there?? If so, there should be reasonably sized spinnerets (not stumpy), which would mean probably a male Nemesiidae species (Entypesa Simon, 1902, are found in Madagascar, Hermacha are common throught Africa,Lepthercus and Pionothele and really common, Spiroctenus spp. in SA, along with some stragglers from the Nemesia). If they aren't stumpy, say so and we could try to key it down a little from there.

If the spinnerets are stumpy, I would definately agree with Ingo (as best as a photo image id can get) on the Migidae, which are also common in the region and neighbouring islands.

Steve

 

[T.Raab]

Hi Steve,

if all works well, i get one dead specimen and will take a look. (The specimen will got after that to Richard.)

 

[Steve Nunn]

cheebus, look at how elongate the cymbium is Not Nemesiidae (who's cymbium is short, like theraphosids), if it is indeed a Migidae (which I'd now think it is too ), there are two distinct keels that run entirely down the length of the outer surface of the fang. They all possess it and only the migids possess it

Another migid character is the back edge of the fovea is as high as the front, which as you can see in the images, clearly is

Got an eyeloupe??? Jeweller's eyepiece, scope??

Steve

 

[FryLock]

I think that's damn good going from both of you even with a small locus, i could not even tell it was Fornicephalae from pic's .

 

[surfer]

Tibial hooks

Thank you for your interest! I think this species has 2 tibial hooks of each leg...
I am sorry for this photos but I do not have a better camera