Unknown Petshop Tarantulas - PLEASE HELP !!!

hcsk8ter

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Hi,
So I have the tarantula bug. I can't stop buying them. So I called around today and figured i'd give a local chain petshop some business, like I did with Scott's and Swifty online.
I'm led to the back of the shop, where I see labeled 1 "stripe knee", 1 "rosse hair" and 1 "pinktoe". Obviosuly I knew what the Roise was. My problem was the big chains like Petco and Petland don't use scientific names and as far as I can see there a couple of different species of "stripe knees" and a "pinktoes" So my first two questions are:

1. What "stripe knee" are big chains referring to?
2. What "pinktoe" are big chains referring to?

So I decided on the stripe knee and the the rose hair, which I kept telling the associate looked very similar. He assured me that they were different. However, I am inclined to believe I purchased two Rosies. I wanted one Rosie but not two.

Here are pictures of the T1:







Questions for T1 are:

3. This is a rosehair, correct?

4. Any idea whether male or female?

Here are pictures of T2:






5. This is a rosehair as well, no?

6. Any idea whether male or female?

Ideally, if they are both rosies, I'd like to keep the female and return the other. T1 is about 4.5" and T2 is about 3.5". By the way, Rosies are gorgeous and are so docile. I see why everyone has them. Thanks in advance for answers!
 

Talkenlate04

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G rosea....

As for the sex..... closer ventral picture would be very helpful. At that size it should not be a problem sexing them..... But get closer and more light.
 

Taceas

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To me, they both look like Rosies. As far as sex, they're either un-matured male or female. Helpful eh?

Here locally...most "pinktoes" are Avicularia avicularia and most "stripeknees" are Aphonopelma seemani.

Just one of the caveats from buying from pet stores who don't know their rear from a hole in the ground. :rolleyes:
 

Windchaser

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I agree, both of those look like G. rosea. As far as sex goes, all I can say with any certainty is are neither of those are mature males. You need a much closer, lighter and clear photo of their ventral sides in order to sex them.
 

P. Novak

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You deffinetly have two G.rosea. The second one just is in need of a molt more then the other.
 

Windchaser

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probably both females...
Out of curiosity what makes you say this? The chain pet shops are renowned for selling males. After all, they just take in whatever wild caught G. rosea they get and sell them. There isn't anything in these pictures that can really give any indication of what sex they are.
 

green_bottle_04

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yes...g. rosea. and "pink toes" that they are referring to are most likely Avicularia Avicularia. as for the "striped knee" i have absolutely no idea without seeing a picture.
 

spid142

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rosies

You got 2 rosies. The striped knee they have is probably seemani. Pinktoe is one of the avics, probably A. avic .
 

syndicate

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this thread is a perfect example why u shouldnt buy from pet shops.they clearly have no clue whats going on.
 

Ando55

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this thread is a perfect example why u shouldnt buy from pet shops.they clearly have no clue whats going on.
I agree, my local pet shop displays the "Stripeknees" and "Pink Toes". They are A semmani and A avicularia.
 

Katronmaster

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Usually a pet store 'stripe knee' is either an A. seemani (most often) or an Oddly colored grayish G. Rosea at times.

On rare occasion I've heard of (But never actually seen myself) Ephebopus murinus (skeleton) being called stripe knees, and on one occasion saw a G. Aureostriata listed as one. A local 'spider guy' claims he bought a Eupalastrus campestratus (Pink zebra beauty) as a stripe knee.

If it has stripes, and knees, it has no doubt at one point been dubbed one.

(Forgive misspellings of latin names)
 

spid142

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striped knees

And I think thats exactly what the pet stores think, call it a whte knee, who'll know the difference?
 

Katronmaster

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Probably. I used to work for one and went around with my label maker and tagged most of the scientific names on the tanks.

Though quite a few of the chains have no control over what tarantulas they receive, a few just get a box with a bug labeled 'assorted tarantulas'. So if you don't know much, you label it with your first guess.
 

NeitherSparky

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I once picked up what I think now was probably a red-phase rosie at a petshop. It was labelled as a stripe-knee, and I bought it because I was after a seemani. I actually took it back when I had ID'ed it, because I really didn't want a rosie. Now that I know what to look for, I see rosies identified as "stripe knees" *very* often in petstores. If a t has even slightly prominent banding on their knees, the shop calls them a stripe knee. I'd love to find a skeleton that way some day. :)
 

Katronmaster

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Just keep looking. It's a running joke between me and a guy at Petland (Who knows his spiders) That Someday somebody is going to acquire a P. Irminia, Thai Tiger, Or N. Chromatus as a 'stripe knee'...

And that shop will never order another T again.


What's sad is a few weeks ago I saw a P. Lugardi in on soaked substrate with just the label 'caresheet'.

Tan Tarantula - (Utter nonsense scientific name)
Docile
 

Binky/Carol

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I picked up a "stripe Knee" at my local petstore.
Most people who look at it say its an A. seemani, the store called their dealer, he said it was an A. Seemani..
I have had one, THIS isn't one. I sent pictures to a well known breeder/ online dealer and he agreed with me.
It most likely IS NOT an A. Seemani. Yes it does have orange spinneretts..
BUT there are other T's out there with orange spinneretts.
http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?im...known22kh8.jpg

:wall:
But also be aware that they often have order sheets. AND you can ask them to see it. Sometimes it will have a genus/species name on that...

A person nearish to me thought she had two chaco golden knees.
But after closer inspection, thinks they are pink beauties.
so even those can get confused.

Carol
 
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