Unidentified Ornithoctoninae (No ID Requests)

Larkin

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Hi,

thanks seanbond ;-)

Draiman - your spider doesn't look like Haplopelma doriae (aka "Orange Fringed"), but it looks more like the Ornithoctonus species to me. But it is only my tentative guess ;-) However it is very nice specimen. If you have an exuviae it might be a good idea to check a few features by examining it.

Cheers,
Tomasz
 
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seanbond

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Hi,

thanks seanbond ;-)

Draiman - your spider doesn't look like Haplopelma doriae aka "Orange Fringed" but it looks more like the Ornithoctonus species for me, but it is only my tentative guess ;-) However it is very nice specimen. If you have an exuviae it might be a good idea to check a few characters by examining it.

Cheers,
Tomasz
are those in the states? either spider?
 

Larkin

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Unofrtunatelly I don't know. I think Chris (syndicate) should be more informed about that.

However, both of the above species should be still available here in the Europe ;-)

Cheers,
Tomasz
 

Draiman

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Draiman - your spider doesn't look like Haplopelma doriae (aka "Orange Fringed"), but it looks more like the Ornithoctonus species to me. But it is only my tentative guess ;-) However it is very nice specimen. If you have an exuviae it might be a good idea to check a few features by examining it.

Cheers,
Tomasz
Interesting, thanks. I have an exuvium, yes. She molted recently. What features should I be looking for? I can provide decent macro pictures of the spermathecae if necessary.
 

syndicate

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Hi Draiman,
That is a beautiful spider you found there!I can't say for sure but to me it does not look like the orange fringe species.Also if the locality is correct and it was collected in Vietnam than we can be sure it is not this species!
Maybe try and send an image to Volker or Soren?
Good luck!
-Chris
 

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:razz:I'm so in love with malaysian earth tiger,and they're pretty hard to find too.is yours a male or a subadult female?:razz:
 

Draiman

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Hi Draiman,
That is a beautiful spider you found there!I can't say for sure but to me it does not look like the orange fringe species.Also if the locality is correct and it was collected in Vietnam than we can be sure it is not this species!
Maybe try and send an image to Volker or Soren?
Good luck!
-Chris
Thanks for the input Chris. Do you happen to have any photos of spermathecae from any of your Borneo orange fringe specimens? I would love to be able to compare those with that of my spider. :)
 

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Interesting, thanks. I have an exuvium, yes. She molted recently. What features should I be looking for? I can provide decent macro pictures of the spermathecae if necessary.
Hi Draiman,

the picture of the spermathecae might be of some help but then it would be nice see the stridulating organs too.
So the picture of the retrolateral surface of the chelicerae and the picture of prolateral surface of the maxillae would be useful as well.
In addition it may be a good idea to measure the relationfactor of Leg I in comparisson to Leg IV.

As Chris said - maybe Volker von Wirth or Søren Rafn will be able to help with the identification.

Below I have attached a picture of the spermathecae of my Ornithoctoniane sp. Kalimantan. I believe that the spermathecae of the "Orange Fringed" looks the same.

Cheers,
Tomasz
 

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Draiman

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Hi Draiman,

the picture of the spermathecae might be of some help but then it would be nice see the stridulating organs too.
So the picture of the retrolateral surface of the chelicerae and the picture of prolateral surface of the maxillae would be useful as well.
In addition it may be a good idea to measure the relationfactor of Leg I in comparisson to Leg IV.

As Chris said - maybe Volker von Wirth or Søren Rafn will be able to help with the identification.

Below I have attached a picture of the spermathecae of my Ornithoctoniane sp. Kalimantan. I believe that the spermathecae of the "Orange Fringed" looks the same.

Cheers,
Tomasz
Interesting! Have a look:

 

Larkin

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Have you managed to take pictures of the stridulating organs?
 

Draiman

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Have you managed to take pictures of the stridulating organs?
Not yet, because I would have to destroy the exuvium to get those shots.

Does anyone know of any way I can contact either Volker von Wirth or Soren Rafn? An email address or something?
 

Larkin

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Hi,

mist or soak the exuvium with water and it'll become more flexible again - so that you will be able to take some pictures.

You can contact them via PM on this forum (their usernames are VolkervonWirth and phormingochilus respectively).

Cheers,
Tomasz
 

Arachnoholic420

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Ornithoctoninae sp. Malaysia

I guess here is my share...

Ornithoctoninae sp. Malaysia 3.5" in heavy pre-molt!!





Peace!!!
 

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Ornithoctoninae G sp."Orange Fringed"
(Mating)





Wish me luck!
-Chris
 

Philth

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Good luck for sure man, and happy there wasn't a 3rd pic of the male rolled up into a ball:cool:

Later, Tom
 
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