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Very much this ^. The purpose of Arachnoboards is so that people can discuss the hobby and figure out what works best for them and the creatures in their care.Also, in this hobby, not always the majority is right. There are tons on information on the internet (and even in here) that is old, outdated and most people still believe it's the right thing, or the absolute true.
What I learned in all these years is that information changes all the time, and we need to constantly adapt to it.
While I know you meant this as a joke, every joke has a little bit of truth in it. This one, unfortunately, has possibly a little more than others. Sadly, for the internet, all online communities have their cliques, and some of them are VERY vocal in their opinions. Not conforming doesn't make you a bad keeper, but disregarding reputable advice/reasoning simply to not conform doesn't make you a good keeper either. (Not saying this is the case in this current discussion.) For every person saying "You're wrong", there may be five people remaining silent that agree with your statement.Because the boards are a popularity contest and not conforming to everyone's ideas will make you a bad keeper
You paint with a very broad brush. NO ONE is infallible and NO REASON is indisputable. I'm 99.9% certain that the three users you mentioned will agree with me. I'm also 99.9% certain that if they don't agree with me that I may as well shut down the boards since they apparently have all the answers and experience that anyone will ever need. (No offense intended guys, you know we love you all. )So did the 3 brilliant members I named earlier.
The only people coming here without good reasoning are those voting "No".....read @viper69 @moricollins @DaveM comments. They all gave great indisputable reasons very early in this thread on why its bad! It should have ended there.
If you don't trust scientists and people in the hobby longer than you've been alive (and possibly the 3 most respected people on this board)...i don't have anything else to tell you.
Being a scientist and/or being in the hobby for a long time doesn't automatically impart some mythical tarantula related omniscience.
To be clear, Old Timer, is a function of how long one has been an AB board member- nothing more. It’s not a sign of age, wisdom, nor knowledge.
Close, but not exactly rightActually the Old Timer tag is not based on posting number. It is based on length of time as an AB member, nothing more.
If it was based on post number @cold blood would be one and he is not, yet.
Old Timer (and active member) are user promotions. The "Old Timer" promotion was created back during a software upgrade in either 2011 or 2015 (I forget which) to retain certain site functionality that is no longer offered as standard. The criteria to get promoted to Old Timer is you must be a member for 10 years AND have a post count of at least 50 posts. Users that are members of groups that have more expansive permissions than "Old Timer" (staff, arachnosupporters, etc.) are not eligible to be promoted to "Old Timer". @cold blood wouldn't be an "Old Timer" for two reasons:
- He's a Mod.
- He hasn't been a member for 10 years.
What @Jess S said ^^A topic like this is obviously going to elicit strong opinions on both sides. All the more reason to discuss such, to hear both views. I'd hate to think there were questions people dare not ask, due to fear of being verbally abused and ridiculed.
As long as things are kept civil, people can be passionate about their views without being insulting, and use it as a opportunity to educate.
If there's only one right answer to any question, this site has no purpose as there would be no need for discussion. "Science" is constantly evolving based upon measurable data. Users experiences are that data. Just because something did not work for you doesn't not automatically mean that it won't be successful for someone else. We're here to discuss those experiences and get to the underlying "science" behind them.
While I'm very sorry to hear of your negative experiences elsewhere, I'm quite glad that they weren't here. I do have to ask if you reported the attacks to the site's staff? I know, at least on AB, that we simply cannot be everywhere and read every post. We rely on users reporting content that goes against our Terms and Rules and investigate every report.I've had very negative experiences on other sites, where I'm been name called, belittled and attacked just for a simple viewpoint that the individual took issue with. And not even a controversial viewpoint either. Just mentioning it, as stuff like that reflects badly not only on the person doing it, but the site for allowing that pattern of behaviour.
I really need to stop being too lazy and write up a tutorial on "reply" and "multi-quote".I tried the multi quote stuff it did not work. I am to lazy to paste and copy.
On the topic of "Tong Feeding":
It is not a good or bad idea, it is merely an idea that may, or may not, have negative consequences (much like handling).
- Have I tong fed? Yes, many times.
- Have I had a T break it's fangs on the tongs? No, but I feel the potential is there. Just like you can drop a phone 20 times without cracking the screen, and shatter it on the 21st.
- Have I had a T run up the tongs? Yes, a P. ornata. It was up the tongs and onto my shoulder in a heartbeat. It then proceeded to jump to the counter and then to the floor. I was very luckily able to contain it and that it was not harmed in any of it's leaps of faith.