Tityus serrulatus Need help

[monty_]

I recived a package with Some 2I and two larger specimen this wednesday. It was +3 degrees C minimum. When I unpacked them all appeared to be dead but after 2 hours in +25C they all started to move their legs. But now after 2 days the condition is still the same. They do some slow small movements if I bug them, but they ar unable to crawl. Do they hibernate or something? Do they survive? A weird thing is that all specimen laying in the same possition

Like this

 

[PIter]

Generally you don't want tropical scorpions kept under 18 degrees C, were they sendt without any heat pack? Try warming them at 25- 30 degrees C, make sure you keep them humid.

 

[fusion121]

Often scorpions will recover from the cold when they warm up, however after two days I think that yours will probably die since they don't seem to be recovering. Its not really safe to send scorpion when temperatures are less then 10C.

 

[monty_]

They were sent with heatpack. I dont know what temperatures they were axposed to. But outside temp was +3 degrees C minimum.

 

[monty_]

Often scorpions will recover from the cold when they warm up, however after two days I think that yours will probably die since they don't seem to be recovering. Its not really safe to send scorpion when temperatures are less then 10C.

Thats too bad. I rally hope thy recover. But if they got frozen to death, why do they still move? If they still lives after 2 days in warm conditions they may still die? I thought it maybe take longer for them to recover from colder conditions.

 

[fusion121]

Normally they recover from the cold pretty quickly, if its been 2 days already it sounds like permanent damage has been done.

 

[monty_]

I guess I just have to wait and see if they die. But I read that they live where the temperatures drop to well under 10 degrees C

 

[Tityus]

Hi Monty,

I agree with Fusion "it sounds like permanent damage" but you can do 1 thing and I hope this works.

1. Make the substrate moist by sprayen enough water so the humidity can get higher maybe they are dehydrated and then they will also very slow.

The best you can do when you spray enough water is put the cage in + 25C - 32C

I hope this works.

P.S. do not send when the temp is lower then +10C Tityus don't like to cold and to less water.

 

[monty_]

Hi Monty,

I agree with Fusion "it sounds like permanent damage" but you can do 1 thing and I hope this works.

1. Make the substrate moist by sprayen enough water so the humidity can get higher maybe they are dehydrated and then they will also very slow.

The best you can do when you spray enough water is put the cage in + 25C - 32C

I hope this works.

P.S. do not send when the temp is lower then +10C Tityus don't like to cold and to less water.

Thanks. I have them more humid now

 

[EAD063]

So are they moving yet or no?

 

[monty_]

So are they moving yet or no?

They are still allive. They are more active than yesterday, but they dont crawl around.

 

[EAD063]

That stinks, hope they come around for you.

Ed

 

[monty_]

I hope so too. 3 days and they are still allive.

 

[G. Carnell]

hmm....

i once recieved a package at temps of below 0C and no heatpacks were involved, all species survived (they were like ice cubes)
but they were walking around within an hour, when previously they didnt move at all

how long were they in postage for?

 

[monty_]

hmm....

i once recieved a package at temps of below 0C and no heatpacks were involved, all species survived (they were like ice cubes)
but they were walking around within an hour, when previously they didnt move at all

how long were they in postage for?

They were shipped monday and I reived it on wednesday.

 

[monty_]

They move alot faster than yesterday. But they still dont crawl. :?

 

[EAD063]

Try to force feed them and keep them alive. Maybe they will molt out of it? Did the adult recover also?

Ed

 

[Arachnophilist]

glad to hear there is some improvement at least.

 

[Brian S]

When they rest with their pedipalps "bent backwards" like in those pics the chances of survival are minimal IME.

 

[EAD063]

When they rest with their pedipalps "bent backwards" like in those pics the chances of survival are minimal IME.

...and you and "Tityus" are basically the tityus specialist so to speak, should he consider just euthenizing them? Hopefully his adult makes it out okay, wouldn't she be parthogenic or am I mistaken since a lot of tityus have similar names.