The Dodo

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I want a pro and con analysis covering from the ethical to the existential.
 

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Pro: Apparently they tasted pretty good. Knowledge can be gained from the endeavor. If for some reason the dodo is causing problems, see the first pro. The Knowledge gained from the endeavor can help save species in the future, and maybe, dare I dream, bring back the banana that smelled like the scratch and sniff stickers in the 80's.

Con: Some of the birds' behaviors may have been learned from the parents. As large birds they may be slow growing and take decades before there's an established population large enough to supply the demand for Dodo McNuggets.
 

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I want a pro and con analysis covering from the ethical to the existential.
The sugarcane farmers will just steal the dodos and mass produce them like turkeys. 🦃 if they release them on that island. the pros the worlds largest pigeon will be back.
 

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Cool to see the Arabian Oryx on the list, that one hits close to home. The Phoenix Zoo at one point had all known living specimens, 8 or 9, for their breeding project. In 60 years their status was upgraded from extinct to vulnerable.

That also means that 99-100% of the population is related.

They were hunted to extinction. Maybe someday it will be homo sapiens turn.

I'm pro oryx if you're asking what team I'd like to see win.
 

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Extinct animals are not going to be brought back as they once were. If they manage to create something from the extinct DNA it will be some type of hybrid creature that has a mix of various aspects.
 

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Extinct animals are not going to be brought back as they once were. If they manage to create something from the extinct DNA it will be some type of hybrid creature that has a mix of various aspects.
"All living organisms are a product of their environment." So the big ponderable is and has always been what environmental traits and immunities get and don't get passed on?
 

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I want a pet Homo habilis.

aaaand....DEBATE!
 

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Unless they intend to rid that island of all its dogs, cats, rats, pigs, and monkeys, I don't see this particular Dodo saga ending any better than the last one.
 

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Ewe Acksed fore itt. During my formative years, an esteemed personage whom it was established and given was my biological mother, joined in the chorus band wagon of denigrating and entirely discounting Louis Leakey's discovery of H habilis, relegating him to the fraud squad fringe contingent of improper scientific methodology and unwarranted conclusion jumping. Unbeknownst to me at that time, this academicist mother held a secondary degree in Victorian Prude - apparently cum laud, along with her other scholastic degrees and achievements.
It wasn't until college and a glance in the direction of paleoarcheology that I discovered Mr. Leakey's findings were in fact true and correct. My entire world pertaining to H habilis required rewriting due entirely to the utterly ridiculous slant my pregenitor imposed upon my thinking stemming from Mr. Leakey's improper romantic straying from the staid and proper conduct fold.

Lesson learned. Try to keep an open mind to additional data.
 
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Ready ethicists?

I want a pet Homo habilis.

aaaand....DEBATE!
Ethically: if you pay me enough I'll be yours personally.

One almost potty-trained, middle-aged, mixed-breed Homo habilis.

Here's what I'm doing right now.
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Ewe Acksed fore itt. During my formative years, an esteemed personage whom it was established and given was my biological mother, joined in the chorus band wagon of denigrating and entirely discounting Louis Leakey's discovery of H habilis, relegating him to the fraud squad fringe contingent of improper scientific methodology and unwarranted conclusion jumping. Unbeknownst to me at that time, this academicist mother held a secondary degree in Victorian Prude - apparently cum laud, along with her other scholastic degrees and achievements.
It wasn't until college and a glance in the direction of paleoarcheology that I discovered Mr. Leakey's findings were in fact true and correct. My entire world pertaining to H habilis required rewriting due entirely to the utterly ridiculous slant my pregenitor imposed upon my thinking stemming from Mr. Leakey's improper romantic straying from the staid and proper conduct fold.

Lesson learned. Try to keep an open mind to additional data.
Reading the article there was one small word that interested me " WHY ".

Surely there are enough species on the edge of extinction that available resources would be better spent on.

Another major point, " if " this was to be successful in some form, no one knows exactly what it eats ,so if positive proof of it's type of food is established, those food plants,or whatever, will also need the DNA treatment.
 

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Ready ethicists?

I want a pet Homo habilis.

aaaand....DEBATE!
Since we don't know if they're our ancestors and can only guess their intelligence by brain case size, owning one could range from having a pet chimpanzee to slavery. Then there's the possibility you would need to duplicate certain aspects of its natural habitat for it to thrive, such as a crocodile biting off part of the H. habilis' foot (don't laugh, there's archeological evidence to support this). This could prove difficult in the US, for while alligators are widely available they do differ from crocodiles (not as available) and therefore might not be enough to keep your H. habilis happy while lurking in its water source. Getting back to the question of intelligence, H. habilis was smart enough to make stone tools; so if it doesn't have to hunt or forage for food what is it going to do all day? Have you ever watched daytime TV? It would be unquestionably cruel and inhumane to subject any type of creature to that!

Edit: Here is a source supporting all my claims making anyone who disagrees with me a science denier. Scroll down to OH 8 for the crocodile thing......
 
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