Systematic revision of Brachypelma, new genus described.

[The Grym Reaper]

I'll link to it below. In short, the genus has been split in two with the "red-legged" species and albiceps staying in Brachypelma and the "red rumped" species being moved to the newly created genus, Tliltocatl.

Brachypelma now consists of B. albiceps, B. auratum, B. baumgarteni, B. boehmei, B. emilia, B. hamorii, B. klaasi and B. smithi.

Tliltocatl consists of T. albopilosum, T. epicureanum, T. kahlenbergi, T. sabulosum, T. schroederi, T. vagans, and T. verdezi.

Brachypelma fossorium is transferred to Stichoplastoris but, according to Mendoza, the Longhorn & Gabriel paper overrides this so it is still a junior synonym of Sandinista lanceolatum.

B. alvarezi, B. andrewi and B. aureoceps would have been transferred to the new genus but should be considered nomina dubia.

https://academic.oup.com/zoolinnean/advance-article-abstract/doi/10.1093/zoolinnean/zlz046/5611858

 

[Minty]

Cheers. Will need to get used to the new genus name quickly.

 

[Brachyfan]

Now all I need is B albiceps and I have all the brachy's!

 

[The Grym Reaper]

Now all I need is B albiceps and I have all the brachy's!

I only need baumgarteni

 

[Hoxter]

How is that new genus even pronounced? It sounds so wrong, no matter how I try to say it.

 

[Arachnid Addicted]

FINALLY!!! This new genus is really hard to say out loud. Lol.

I guess, with B. fossorium being transferred to Stichoplastoris, it will invalidated the synonym with S. lanceolatum, or am I tripping?

 

[Brachyfan]

I only need baumgarteni

I lucked out with my baum. Payed 4 times as much as my T albopilosum (this is weird lol) and about half of what I payed for my hamorii. Couldn't pass up that deal!

 

[lazarus]

I now have all Brachypelma species.
This reclassification is no suprise but I was hoping for a better name for the new genus.

 

[The Grym Reaper]

How is that new genus even pronounced?

This new genus is really hard to say out loud.

Yeah, I'm not even going to attempt to pronounce it, I'm just referring to them by the genus initial and species name from now on

 

[Liquifin]

Revisions are the best way to learn a new language.

Not surprised too much, but it makes sense to put them in the Tliltocatl genus. At least it makes it much easier to complete the Brachypelma genus now and same for the new Tliltocatl genus.

 

[Arachnid Addicted]

Reminder: this revision wont magically turn hobby "red rumpers" individual into pure bloodline. Lol. The mess in the hobby still goes on, unfortunately.

 

[The Grym Reaper]

I guess, with B. fossorium being transferred to Stichoplastoris, it will invalidated the synonym with S. lanceolatum, or am I tripping?

Yeah, that is a bit of a weird one, I'll be interested to see if this overrides it.

 

[Arachnid Addicted]

Yeah, that is a bit of a weird one, I'll be interested to see if this overrides it.

As soon as I got home from work, I'll read the article. I can't read it right now but maybe, there'd be something about this synonym there.

 

[Thekla]

Gosh! Now I have only 2 Brachys, but 3 Tliltocatls (how weird ).

I'm sure someone already explained this to me, but please again, why is B. albiceps with the red-legged fraction?

 

[Brachyfan]

Gosh! Now I have only 2 Brachys, but 3 Tlitocatls (how weird ).

I'm sure someone already explained this to me, but please again, why is B. albiceps with the red-legged fraction?

Good question!

 

[The Grym Reaper]

Revisions are the best way to learn a new language.

I feel like I'm going to mispronounce it and inadvertently summon some ancient Mayan demon or something

I'm sure someone already explained this to me, but please again, why is B. albiceps with the red-legged fraction?

I'm guessing it's more to do with the shape of their genitalia than colouration

 

[Arachnid Addicted]

Gosh! Now I have only 2 Brachys, but 3 Tlitocatls (how weird ).

I'm sure someone already explained this to me, but please again, why is B. albiceps with the red-legged fraction?

I believe both taxonomy and molecular put them in Brachypelma genus rather than Tliltocatl. I didnt read the article yet, though. So, I might be wrong.

 

[CommanderBacon]

So... how many Tliltocatls does everyone have? XD

Also, this is a good pronunciation guide for us: http://www.native-languages.org/nahuatl_guide.htm

 

[Arachnid Addicted]

So... how many Tliltocatls does everyone have? XD

Also, this is a good pronunciation guide for us: http://www.native-languages.org/nahuatl_guide.htm

T. schroederi is the only one I don't have, yet. Same goes to B. baumgarteni.

 

[Feral]

So... how many Tliltocatls does everyone have? XD

Also, this is a good pronunciation guide for us: http://www.native-languages.org/nahuatl_guide.htm

Thank you! Fantastic!

That first "tl" is throwing me, though, because it seems like the "tl" letter combination is pronounced very differently in the Nahuatl language (like a breathy "l"?) than it is in other North American indigenous languages (it's difficult, like a breathy "tl", almost ""cl" sound).
Which I think means I'm doomed to pronounce double wrong, some crazy how. lol

I feel like I should start practicing it or something. lol