STUPID pet shop attempts to sell Rose Hair as a Zebra Striped Knee

[wineorebellion]

Pet Stores Hang You Heads In Shame

this is my first day on here and I can't even find the words for this :?

 

[WayneT]

It is a very trying experience for me anymore to go into a pet store and see how they keep their T's. It's also toguht me alot about patience as well. I continually point out the lighting, the removal of the 10 to 15 dead crickets, etc., etc., etc. I've even just bought the poor critter to save it. It's a sad fact but Code Monkey is right...alot of people just see it as a bug. It's vry unfortunate.

 

[leo3375]

Those petshops never stop amazing you with their stupidity/greedyness (is that a word??). The place I used to buy crickets sold anything from dogs to reptiles and spiders, which were all in the containers they came in (they can't stretch their legs, no water etc.) Some of them had been there for months. This is the reason I don't come there anymore, I now go to a specialist reptile/arachnid shop that has decent enclosures.
Joost

That's exactly why I only go to a specialty place close to me. Yeah, I pay a little more than I would at, say, Petco, but the people there know more about Ts and even though they may use an older scientific name or a lesser-known common name, they're quite accurate with their info.

 

[RazorRipley]

WHY are pet stores soooo stupid ??

So I guess these idiost are trying to sell a rose hair as a striped knee to get more money, unless they are genuinely THAT stupid.... How sad.....by the way, they want the stripe knee for 59.99 $

A) Why are you so worried about a common pet stores lack of expertise in a very uncommon hobby?

B) Why would you be surprised that they are charging so much? Since when do chain pet stores have reasonable prices?

C) Why would you expect that someone who has advanced experience and interest in the "tarantula hobby" to be shopping for aphonopelma seemanis or grammastola roseas? These are for beginners and people who want "A" pet spider.

D)Does it make one stupid to not know the differences in Theraphosidae animals?

I say dont worry about pet shops and their mistakes, yes its frustrating that not everyone shares our passions, however, to them its just a spider... give em' a break

 

[Seinfeld-]

haha, pet stores around me dont do this. they actually keep the 2 roses and the mex red knee in sep. cages. they also keep them at the right humidity/temps, and suply water dishes.

 

[pitbulllady]

I know its unlikely that the SPCA would care, but you know, if a health inspecter makes suprize visits to a resturaunt (and to me serving food once !!) then why the hell cant the SPCA make annonomous visits to pet stores to make sure there is a standard of care ?
This isnt something that is consuming my energy or making me mad (as you might believe Code) I just think that there should be some sort of standard in pet stores care of ALL its animals.

Not all the pet stores in my area are bad in there care of animals. One pet store near my house does a good job of all its pets...it doesnt have cats or dogs becuase, unlike the previous owners it realizes that there isnt the room,...they just have rodents, rabbits, fish...I think they neeed to keep their bettas heathier,...and walmart too.

Its just City Central Pets that is a bad pet store !!

In the US, humane laws vary from state to state, and all the ASPCA or whatever state organization is responsible for such laws can do is to enforce what is on the books. Most, if not all, states actually list specific kinds of animals which are covered by these laws, as well as listing just what is and is not considered cruel or negligent treatment. I don't know of ANY state which includes ANY invertebrates in their code of laws, insofar as humane treatment of animals goes. Most do not even include cold-blooded vertebrates, like reptiles, though a few have begun to pass laws to include reptiles and prosecute people for cruel treatment of snakes, lizards, etc., in recognition that these are animals capable of suffering, and are also becoming popular household pets, along with dogs and cats. It has taken this long for reptiles to be considered animals or pets under many states' laws, so no doubt it will be even longer before spiders and other inverts are included, too. The issue that many states deal with is where to draw the line between what is and is not cruel when it comes to animals like snakes and spiders. Few people would even question the beating to death of a dog or cat as being cruel, but many, including many legistlators, would argue that beating a snake to death or stomping a spider is perfectly acceptable as an act of self defense, or defense of others, from a what they see only as a potentially-dangerous, unfeeling thing.
Just to give you an example, I am on a listserve devoted to Akita dogs. On this list, there happens to be many people who are terrified of any non-mammalian animals, even Box Turtles! There was a newspaper report of some guy burning a puppy to death, and this generated a huge outcry of rage and indignation among the list members, but when a list member gleefully posted about her experience running over a black snake(most likely a Black Ratsnake)with her lawnmower, boasting about how the poor snake tried to get away and how she had her husband come chase it out of a bush so she could massacre it, lest it harm her "baby bears"(her name for her 100+ pound Akitas, who are fully capably of defending themselves against the T-Rex in "Jurassic Park", if you know this breed), everyone except that strange Pitbulllady was cheering her and congratulating her for a job well done! Me, I called her a hypocrite on the list-made me REALLY popular, I can tell you!

pitbulllady

 

[MeteoRa]

the petshop at my place placed 2 g.rosea in the same tank with pine and wood shavings as their substrates...

 

[Pheonixx]

Well so far i agree with everything said except for one thing...

FORCED is not spelled FORSED....LMAO

the shops in my area all were having horrid conditions you know what i did? I spent about 6 hours in the store with ALL the employees (and mgr's permission)
showing them everything i ever learned about the keeping of T's ever since then they have not mislabeled or poorly treated a T. there are never dead crix in cages and they actually have a check list for WEEKLEY feedings of the t's 2 or 3 crix a week and it gets checked off when they get fed. you know how i got them to listen? I told the manager that overfed and stressed out T' with no hide, water dish and improper substrate would significantly raise the chances of a customer/ employee being bitten. (sort of BS but it is certianly possible) When the possibility of a lawsuit from a customer being bitten twinkeld in the shop owners eyes he changed his whole tune. ;P :}

 

[Wolfchan]

Egads, I'm glad I only sjop at the oet store I'm employed at! These stories are horrifying!! Anyone near San Jose CA should stop by my store for a refreshing change in T husbandry....I'm really PROUD of the way we have ours set up. (Though all we have at the moment is a rosea sling and an A. avic...)

 

[lizmotobike]

I told the manager that overfed and stressed out T' with no hide, water dish and improper substrate would significantly raise the chances of a customer/ employee being bitten. (sort of BS but it is certianly possible) When the possibility of a lawsuit from a customer being bitten twinkeld in the shop owners eyes he changed his whole tune. - Pheonixx

yes, you get more flies with sugar. no one wants to hear how wrong they are even when they are terribly wrong. often when given a reason they understand (even for the wrong info) people are more easily persuaded. kind of sad that no one cares for the right reason, but its more important to get them the proper care. a lady at one of the stores i go to confessed she was afraid of the T's. i have seen this same lady handle much scarier stuff. i offered to do it for her and she gave me my crix free. yet she has no prob. scooping crix with her bare hand and grabbing snakes and lizards. some one brought their dog in and she showed them how to squeeze its anul glands. go figure. i guess its just what you are used to.

 

[kellygirl]

Did any of you notice that this thread is almost 2 years old?

-Kelly

 

[Pheonixx]

yeah but who cares, pet stores are always stupid... LOL why cant we be allowed a bit of stupidity?

 

[mouse]

well the one petstore close to me that carries t's only posts commen names on the container, but when it get's new t's it doesn't change the names on the container. right now one of the rosies is in a container marked featherleg, and in a container marked rosehair is a scorpion. but since all you can get there are rosehairs, pinktoes, stripeknees and emporer scorps, it's not too hard to figure out what is what.
dianne

 

[Scorp guy]

ok, thats what you wanna do right? well maybe some of us wanna make a difference huh? how many of ya are gonna walk into a petshop and see a starving tarantula with a blistering hot light and nowhere to go??? well ive seen a cobalt blue with about a half inch of substrate and nowhere to drink for sale for $80. if you see things like that or any other cruel act on something like that would YOU just shop at another petshop? or would you talk to the tards and tell them what they are doing wrong?

 

[Scorp guy]

sorry mouse, i meant what the dude posted like 3 years ago not you lol

 

[Pennywise]

This thread is ancient,

but pet stores do have their problems. Those who have joined recently
may not know that at least 2 AB members are pet shop employees who
are trying to educate customers and fellow employees alike in the care
and identification of Tarantulas and other inverts.

 

[Starving1artist]

I`d say go with PETA instead of the local SPCA. If these poor frogs and "T`s" have horrible conditions what are the rest of their livestock forced to live in?....Starving

 

[pitbulllady]

I`d say go with PETA instead of the local SPCA. If these poor frogs and "T`s" have horrible conditions what are the rest of their livestock forced to live in?....Starving

Do you keep any animals, by any chance, Starving Artist? You DO know that PeTA's primary goal is the elimation of ALL animal/human interaction, and that includes the keeping of pets. This is especially true of "exotic" pets,like tarantulas. PeTA will tar you and all the rest of us with the same brush as the crappy pet shops, so getting them involved is like cutting off your nose to spite own face.

pitbulllady

 

[kyle_de_aussie]

C) Why would you expect that someone who has advanced experience and interest in the "tarantula hobby" to be shopping for aphonopelma seemanis or grammastola roseas? These are for beginners and people who want "A" pet spider.

Yeah or maybe they just dont have these species and want it :wall:

 

[Vermis]

A lot of petshops about here, in Northern Ireland, got in on the '90's exotics boom. In fact, when I was 12 I got my first exotic: an anole, which was sold to me along with a small plastic 'flintstones' tank with plastic palm trees and a 15W bulb in the lid. I was assured this was all it needed. When it died I made sure to read up on anything I wanted to keep in the future.
But I digress.

Recently I was in Belfast's Petsmart, which I hadn't gone near for years, and had changed to 'Pets At Home' (dot co dot uk) in the meantime. I knew they kept exotics in various conditions, and only a few in fully suitable condition. I was a little disappointed, though mostly pleasantly surprised, when I saw they've discontinued exotic pets.
The same can be said of a local pet shop I visited, too.

In NI, loss of novelty and interest probably contributed - exotics were never widely popular here. In the rest of Britain (with the Pets At Home chain, at least) I think the anti-exotics RSPCA might have a part to play too.